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DaWei · May 18th, 2006, 9:01 PM

Large groups will kill you if you try to starve 'em, but you can get away with it with a small enough group?

proudnerd · May 18th, 2006, 9:03 PM

Your superior knowledge is confusing me.. lol. I don't get what you're trying to say.

DaWei · May 18th, 2006, 9:16 PM

Okay, here's my point. Open source has benefits. It also has drawbacks. So it is with almost everything in life. Express your feelings about it. You have every right. Think about what you're going to express, don't just chime in with BS handed out by some high priest you're following around. Form your own opinions based upon what you know or have come to know, or you have received from a reliable source. Much of the technical gobbledegook you hear is absolutely no better than the shit you find forwarded into your email every day. Marshall your thoughts and speak rationally. I was gigging you, true enough, but not really maliciously. Eventually you will be in a climate where you are judged on your performance and your ability to adequately express yourself. Prepare for it. There are azzholes like me who will refuse to hire or will not continue to employ, that percentage of the candidates who are (OR APPEAR TO BE) in the lower end of the spectrum. Life ain't fair when you live by the cutting edge or the bottom line.

gryfang · May 18th, 2006, 9:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chepfaust

personally, i would like to see an open-source government, where nothing takes place behind closed doors. everything the government does or is planning on doing is available for perusal by anyone who cares.

Hmmm, I think there is a slight difference in "Open Source" (source code) and "No Secret". There really is Open sourece crypotography/encryption. That means you are able to understand "how it works" and the "structures are free to use and distribute", but the information that is encrypted still isn't available for you to see (unless you have the correct key) and is a secret.
So in an open source government there still will be closed doors, secrets, esspionage, etc. But all the Laws, structures of government, and access to Use, distributes, and even alter such are Open.

Thought that was a fun statement though

so I had to comment

DaWei · May 18th, 2006, 10:24 PM

Government isn't open for the same reason outhouses aren't open. No one wants to see the shit and have the stink escape.

nnxion · May 19th, 2006, 5:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWei

Much of the technical gobbledegook you hear is absolutely no better than the shit you find forwarded into your email every day.

That's why I put a filter on my mail that auto-deletes mailes that start with "FW: ".

Unfortunately sometimes the good stuff passes me by too. Sometimes when people forget me first time around and later forward it to me I still don't get the mail. Just another lesson how important it is to get things right the first time.

Ooble · May 19th, 2006, 9:36 AM

I just hit the "Junk" button - it works pretty well.

As DaWei said, open-source software has its benefits and its drawbacks. Obviously, the one real benefit to you, as a coder, is that experienced programmers, UI designers, database administrators and the FSM knows who else will (hopefully) end up chiming in with their contributions to your project. The drawback? It's a hell of a lot more work to make some money out of it. I'm not a fan of money, but it's kinda necessary.

I seem to be saying "As DaWei said" a lot... :p

Infinite Recursion · May 19th, 2006, 9:42 AM

There is a fine line between "fan of money" and "love of programming".

Ooble · May 19th, 2006, 9:46 AM

Well, I code mainly because I love it. Thing is, unless I'm contributing to society, society ain't gonna contribute to my stomach. And I get hungry really quickly.

DaWei · May 19th, 2006, 9:53 AM

Has anyone noticed how rapidly the Open Auto Parts movement is gaining popularity? Psst, wanna buy some hubcaps?

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May 18th, 2006, 9:01 PM	#41
DaWei Resident Grouch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,453 Rep Power: 10	Large groups will kill you if you try to starve 'em, but you can get away with it with a small enough group? __________________ Abstraction doesn't make it impossible to write bad code; it makes it possible to write superior code. Contributor's Corner: Grumpy on C++ Exceptions DaWei on Pointers

May 18th, 2006, 9:16 PM	#43
DaWei Resident Grouch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,453 Rep Power: 10	Okay, here's my point. Open source has benefits. It also has drawbacks. So it is with almost everything in life. Express your feelings about it. You have every right. Think about what you're going to express, don't just chime in with BS handed out by some high priest you're following around. Form your own opinions based upon what you know or have come to know, or you have received from a reliable source. Much of the technical gobbledegook you hear is absolutely no better than the shit you find forwarded into your email every day. Marshall your thoughts and speak rationally. I was gigging you, true enough, but not really maliciously. Eventually you will be in a climate where you are judged on your performance and your ability to adequately express yourself. Prepare for it. There are azzholes like me who will refuse to hire or will not continue to employ, that percentage of the candidates who are (OR APPEAR TO BE) in the lower end of the spectrum. Life ain't fair when you live by the cutting edge or the bottom line. __________________ Abstraction doesn't make it impossible to write bad code; it makes it possible to write superior code. Contributor's Corner: Grumpy on C++ Exceptions DaWei on Pointers

May 18th, 2006, 10:24 PM	#45
DaWei Resident Grouch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,453 Rep Power: 10	Government isn't open for the same reason outhouses aren't open. No one wants to see the shit and have the stink escape. __________________ Abstraction doesn't make it impossible to write bad code; it makes it possible to write superior code. Contributor's Corner: Grumpy on C++ Exceptions DaWei on Pointers

May 19th, 2006, 9:36 AM	#47
Ooble I eat cake for breakfast. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In my box. Posts: 4,434 Rep Power: 9	I just hit the "Junk" button - it works pretty well. As DaWei said, open-source software has its benefits and its drawbacks. Obviously, the one real benefit to you, as a coder, is that experienced programmers, UI designers, database administrators and the FSM knows who else will (hopefully) end up chiming in with their contributions to your project. The drawback? It's a hell of a lot more work to make some money out of it. I'm not a fan of money, but it's kinda necessary. I seem to be saying "As DaWei said" a lot... :p __________________ Me :: You :: Them

May 18th, 2006, 9:03 PM	#42
proudnerd Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Your superior knowledge is confusing me.. lol. I don't get what you're trying to say.

May 19th, 2006, 9:42 AM	#48
Infinite Recursion Programming Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3,473 Rep Power: 8	There is a fine line between "fan of money" and "love of programming". __________________ http://jasonpowers.net "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."

May 19th, 2006, 9:46 AM	#49
Ooble I eat cake for breakfast. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In my box. Posts: 4,434 Rep Power: 9	Well, I code mainly because I love it. Thing is, unless I'm contributing to society, society ain't gonna contribute to my stomach. And I get hungry really quickly. __________________ Me :: You :: Them

May 19th, 2006, 9:53 AM	#50
DaWei Resident Grouch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,453 Rep Power: 10	Has anyone noticed how rapidly the Open Auto Parts movement is gaining popularity? Psst, wanna buy some hubcaps? __________________ Abstraction doesn't make it impossible to write bad code; it makes it possible to write superior code. Contributor's Corner: Grumpy on C++ Exceptions DaWei on Pointers

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