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notchent · Jun 2nd, 2006, 11:05 AM

It's not for C language, but you may find the following tutorial useful. It helps you get a lot of useful things accomplished right away:

http://musiclessonz.com/rebol_tutorial.html

thondal · Jun 5th, 2006, 5:10 PM

I'm on float and stuff right now.. but can one do OOP in C? Or can that only be done in C++ or is it better to wait untill I start with c++?

what say ye?

-thondal-

DaWei · Jun 5th, 2006, 5:31 PM

Object oriented design is an approach, not a language feature. Hardware and mechanical designers use it all the time. Think of it that way. A wheel is an object, rolling it is a procedure. The software gurus that have all you guys thinking it's a language feature ought to be stood against a wall and de-nutted.

thondal · Jun 5th, 2006, 5:58 PM

oh... still... is it possible to approach it in c? unless that was your way to say yes

-thondal-

Benoit · Jun 5th, 2006, 6:42 PM

That was DaWei's way of saying yes...Object-oriented concepts can be applied in C by using things such as structures/unions

SittingDuck · Jun 19th, 2006, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thondal

when i said more complex ways of making the program wait i meant like you said for example an endless loop

Don't do that - don't use endless/intensive wait loops under an operating system - it's not fair on other programs - the OS thinks you're actually doing something so keeps switching control back to you, instead of spending time with other programs. Use a function from the operating system instead to wait for something.

thondal · Jul 6th, 2006, 6:56 AM

Feel like I'm almost done with C now. Like the learning face. Allthough I'm not good at it yet, but does anyone think there would be a problem for me to now move on to C#? Any advice here (I'm hoping I don't have to learn c++ first... no special reason, just want to start with C#)

-thondal-

uman · Jul 6th, 2006, 1:29 PM

An English-Norwegian ddictionary program is harder than it sounds, as you'd have to take into account various conjugations, inflections, etc., i.e. you'd have to make sure that it knew that "work", "works", and "worked" were the same word. You'd have to do the same on the Norwegian end as well, which may be worse (I'm not sure how inflected the Norwegian language is.) The problem would be exacerbated by the fact that Norwegian wasn't designed as a translation of English. I don't speak Norwegian so I can't give any concrete examples, but there are certainly many words in English such that one word represents the meanings of many diverse Norwegian words; the opposite is also true. If that's not enough for you yet, the whole mess is made worse by the fact that neither "English" nor "Norwegian" are unified and standardized languages. We're talking about something that grew naturally, not something like Esperanto. There are numerous important variations in English. "Color" or "colour"? "Diaper" or "Nappy"? "Burglarize" or "Burgle"? As you're well aware (but I'll mention for the sake of anyone else who's reading this) there are a great deal of spoken dialects of Norwegian, and the written language has been polished and standardized into two competing and significantly different forms, namely Nynorsk and Bokm�l.

If this hasn't been enough to deter you, then by all means, go ahead!

uman · Jul 6th, 2006, 1:33 PM

Responding to your other post, no, there's no reason to move to C#. You'll have to unlearn some of the things about pointers and memory management you learned in C though to program in C#.

Kilo might not like you for it, but a lot of us would agree that C# is a great (and easy!) language.

thondal · Jul 6th, 2006, 2:06 PM

Thank you for that Uman

I thought through it here a while ago, and decided not to... instead I decided to try to make a text based game, like the ones they used to make around the mid 80's and early 90's, you can see what i've done so far (30 min) further down the page.

Quote:

Originally Posted by uman

Responding to your other post, no, there's no reason to move to C#. You'll have to unlearn some of the things about pointers and memory management you learned in C though to program in C#.

Kilo might not like you for it, but a lot of us would agree that C# is a great (and easy!) language.

You kind of talked against yourself there.... Did you mean that I should not move over to C#?, anywais, I'm not nearly through with C yet. Here is why. I'm thinking that when this text based "game" is done and working, I can move on

here's what i've got... any comment? just worked about 30 min on it or so.
It's not good at all, but it is a start i guess. Haven't learned if and else yet... oh well..

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#include <stdio.h>

int main()
{
    char navn[25];
    char rase[15];
    char sex[8];
    char klasse[15];
    char svar[5];
    
    printf("Welcome to \"Lands End\" rpg game.\n\nTake on the role as a Hero in an ever growing world,\nwhere you can decide the fate of the world you are in.\n");
    gets(svar);
    printf("The God \"...\" has given you life.\nUse it to promote goodness in this world, be neutral or aid the darkness.\n");
    printf("First, what is the name you whish to be known by?\n");
    gets(navn);
    printf("Are you Male or Female?\n");
    gets(sex);
    printf("Are you an Elf or Human?\n");
    gets(rase);
    printf("Are you, a fighter, mage or ranger?\n");
    gets(klasse);
    printf("\n\nWelcome to \"Lands end\" %s,\nYou enter this world as a %s %s, and belong to the race of %s.\nYour powers grow as you train, use them wisely...\n",navn,sex,klasse,rase);
    gets(svar);
    printf("\n\n");
    printf("First all you see is a bright shining light. Then everything turns dark. \n\nYou can feel your body, but it feels to heavy to move.\n But then, you hear a distant sound, almost like mumbling.\nYou concentrate and try to make out the words \n\n");
    gets(svar);
    printf("\"Hey, are you okey?\" \n\"Can you hear me?\"");
    printf("\n\nYou open your eyes and can faintly make out the face of what looks like a %s,\nstanding next to you.",rase);
    getchar();
    return(0);
}

-thondal-

Jun 5th, 2006, 5:10 PM	#32
thondal Programmer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 82 Rep Power: 3	I'm on float and stuff right now.. but can one do OOP in C? Or can that only be done in C++ or is it better to wait untill I start with c++? what say ye? -thondal- __________________ "die" he screamed at the polygon man. When he was done with him, only four points remained, a quad of what he once was.

Jun 5th, 2006, 5:31 PM	#33
DaWei Resident Grouch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,453 Rep Power: 10	Object oriented design is an approach, not a language feature. Hardware and mechanical designers use it all the time. Think of it that way. A wheel is an object, rolling it is a procedure. The software gurus that have all you guys thinking it's a language feature ought to be stood against a wall and de-nutted. __________________ Abstraction doesn't make it impossible to write bad code; it makes it possible to write superior code. Contributor's Corner: Grumpy on C++ Exceptions DaWei on Pointers

Jun 5th, 2006, 5:58 PM	#34
thondal Programmer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 82 Rep Power: 3	oh... still... is it possible to approach it in c? unless that was your way to say yes -thondal- __________________ "die" he screamed at the polygon man. When he was done with him, only four points remained, a quad of what he once was.

Jun 5th, 2006, 6:42 PM	#35
Benoit Expert Programmer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 579 Rep Power: 5	That was DaWei's way of saying yes...Object-oriented concepts can be applied in C by using things such as structures/unions __________________ Johnny was a chemist's son but Johnny is no more, for what Johnny thought was H2O was H2SO4

Jul 6th, 2006, 6:56 AM	#37
thondal Programmer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 82 Rep Power: 3	Feel like I'm almost done with C now. Like the learning face. Allthough I'm not good at it yet, but does anyone think there would be a problem for me to now move on to C#? Any advice here (I'm hoping I don't have to learn c++ first... no special reason, just want to start with C#) -thondal- __________________ "die" he screamed at the polygon man. When he was done with him, only four points remained, a quad of what he once was.

Jun 2nd, 2006, 11:05 AM	#31
notchent Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	It's not for C language, but you may find the following tutorial useful. It helps you get a lot of useful things accomplished right away: http://musiclessonz.com/rebol_tutorial.html

Jul 6th, 2006, 1:29 PM	#38
uman Expert Programmer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 794 Rep Power: 4	An English-Norwegian ddictionary program is harder than it sounds, as you'd have to take into account various conjugations, inflections, etc., i.e. you'd have to make sure that it knew that "work", "works", and "worked" were the same word. You'd have to do the same on the Norwegian end as well, which may be worse (I'm not sure how inflected the Norwegian language is.) The problem would be exacerbated by the fact that Norwegian wasn't designed as a translation of English. I don't speak Norwegian so I can't give any concrete examples, but there are certainly many words in English such that one word represents the meanings of many diverse Norwegian words; the opposite is also true. If that's not enough for you yet, the whole mess is made worse by the fact that neither "English" nor "Norwegian" are unified and standardized languages. We're talking about something that grew naturally, not something like Esperanto. There are numerous important variations in English. "Color" or "colour"? "Diaper" or "Nappy"? "Burglarize" or "Burgle"? As you're well aware (but I'll mention for the sake of anyone else who's reading this) there are a great deal of spoken dialects of Norwegian, and the written language has been polished and standardized into two competing and significantly different forms, namely Nynorsk and Bokm�l. If this hasn't been enough to deter you, then by all means, go ahead! __________________ Few people deserve to be compared to (Rush) Limbaugh, most of them were convicted at the Nuremburg trials. --WilliamSChips on Slashdot

Jul 6th, 2006, 1:33 PM	#39
uman Expert Programmer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 794 Rep Power: 4	Responding to your other post, no, there's no reason to move to C#. You'll have to unlearn some of the things about pointers and memory management you learned in C though to program in C#. Kilo might not like you for it, but a lot of us would agree that C# is a great (and easy!) language. __________________ Few people deserve to be compared to (Rush) Limbaugh, most of them were convicted at the Nuremburg trials. --WilliamSChips on Slashdot

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