Que

first of all sorry for the vague header but I'm not sure where to start,

let me catch you up (won't take long) I started reading in c/c++ and got djpp all set-up and started w/ a bottle of advil and a lot of reading.

ended w/ an empty bottle and a couple seemingly "stupidly" simple (lack of better words) program's that I could not get to function correctly.
they were just mathematical prog's that wouldn't give me the answer just shut.
getchar() would not work. :eek: (run away )

okay I read python was a better starting place so I've read some tutorials (byte of python), seems simpler, but before I go back to drinking (advil that is)...

I figured I would bug some experts with a couple ?'s

are there any extreme newb reads that are/should be mandatory??

is there any simple codes that could be run and examined, this seems to be a good way to get a real feel for programming??

any other advice would be greatly appreciated, thnx in advance.

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Sane

Extreme newb reads? I guess you could try Dive into Python? I haven't looked at though.

I wouldn't say there's any specific code that you should try to run and examine. Anything you can make, no matter how seemingly pointless, will help you gain a better perspective and become better acquainted with Python.

I've only read 3 chapters in one Python tutorial, and I've still managed to develop my knowledge (slowly however). It's all about practice and motivation. There aren't any "uber special ultimate methods for greatness". Just go for it.

demon101

i am starting out with python and i found a good book to read on. http://diveintopython.org

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Que

thanks for the info. (and the patience)

I'm looking into the guide/book I see it's a free dl

I guess I just ask because about code because although my motivation is high I guess my creativity is waining this morning.

okay one more I see there is a ver. 2.5 now should this be a must as I dl'ed about a week ago 2.4.3 I think or can I just keep on keeping on?

Q

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Ooble

I'd recommend How To Think Like A Computer Scientist: Learning With Python - 'tis a good book.

Get v2.4.3 - you won't need the new features until 2.5 is live at the very least.

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Dietrich

Python 2.5 is an alpha version only, a precursor/test for Python 3.0 at best. Keep using Python 2.4 until the dust has settled!

For some rather simple starting Python advice take a look here:
http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread20774.html

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Arevos

I was under the impression that 2.5 would eventually be a new release. Python 3.0, AKA Python 3000, will introduce a lot more features than 2.5 introduces.

Dietrich

Thanks for your highly qualified input Arevos!

You are most likely right, there will probably be Python 2.5 to 2.9 before the much awaited Python 3000 is born. I was hoping that I wouldn't have to upgrade so many times. Sane seems to have noticed a fair amount of optimization in Python 2.5, another reason to eventually upgrade.

A stupid question, can you run Python24 next to Python25 on the same machine?

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Yarvin

yes... yes you can....

Que

man sorry but I'm a slow reader lol

@Dietrich thanks that s"simple guide" was a good starting place especially for someone who has no prior languages under his belt. I do see it was rather simple but thats where I'm @ plus it included some code for a newb to fiddle w/ thnx

the books will take a bit more time to get a feel for (ahh time I think I remember what it is ,if only I was that short of stress the world would be beautiful) the dive into python looks promising but have only glimpsed.

I will heed the advice to keep the studies in 2.4.3 as its' frustrating not getting over one learning curve before tackling another

you guy's have turned ou tto be a wealth of knowledge so I'll continue to lurk around through old posts looking to grow an understanding. but I'm sure i'll be bugging you soon enough

Q

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