jayme

trying to do what you want to is like trying to attach a door to a frameless car.

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Booooze

lol.. good one Jayme

Malekos

Hi again, sorry for being off for a while, connection probs...
Anyway, I KNOW HOW HARD THIS IS, but can anyone JUST TELL ME how to do it?

Booooze

Truthfully, I barely know myself. In fact I don't know. But for a start, make sure you are a C++ Expert . The way I look at it is DX and OpenGL are like interfaces between a language, such as C++, and hardware(the whole computer, yet on a graphics side.). So once you learn how communicate hardware and a low level... well if you've figured out that much you know more than me. I'm not even so sure that's right.

lectricpharaoh

Graphics Device Interface. It's part of Windows; if you expect to do any Windows programming, you really ought to know this, or be willing to learn it.
Try MSDN.

A matrix, when it comes to graphics programming (and math in general) is a table of numbers. They have special properties, and can be used in certain operations, so that you can transform points (ie, change their locations) by using matrix math. When you consider that 3D objects in computer graphics are essentially just a list of interconnected points that specify the vertices of a shape, using matrix math is one way to handle the rendering, allowing you to move, rotate, and scale your 3D shapes.

You really need to learn some basics before trying to write your own library. Demanding to be taught how to write a 3D library without being willing to experiment with existing libraries is like expecting to be taught algebra without being willing to learn basic arithmetic first.

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mrynit

but a 3D library for VB would be cool. 3D menues!!

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Booooze

Whether or not you know it, you can use DX with vb. This is why there is no point to making another. If you want 3D, use DX or OpenGL.

lectricpharaoh

Ugh. Perhaps it would be pretty at first, but this sort of thing quickly loses its appeal. It's just extra bloat and performance costs, with little or no actual value. And yes, I'm the kind of guy who sets WinXP to use the 'classic' look whenever I'm using an XP machine.
Yup. A 'managed' version of DirectX has been around for a while now, and while I expect it's easier to use from C# than VB.NET, it's certainly possible to use it from the latter. After all, .NET is .NET, whichever language you use.

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Booooze

Personally I use C#. I could probably use VB.Net if I tried, but for some reason I feel much more comfortable with C#. I thought he was talking about vb6. I've looked at vb6 and DX, and it's not exactly great. If you just looking to play around with it, then it's fine, but I wouldn't use it for any game programming even remotley high end.

lectricpharaoh

Agreed, and for more than performance reasons. Then again, using GDI isn't a good idea for high-performace graphics, though it's certainly a good place to learn basics.

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