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Old Apr 6th, 2006, 2:29 AM   #11
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I use dreamweaver. The only time I use the GUI are if i'm

1) Copying-pasting from another file format (like word for example)
2) Making a table for something (it's just easier to see it than to code it. DW tabe generation is fine)
3) Making image maps. Who wants to guess the damn pixel locations? Easier to click and drag.

I use it for code view, and it works great. Built in FTP and Site managment, everything is coloured appropriately, I dig it.
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Old Apr 6th, 2006, 7:04 AM   #12
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I use dreamweaver. The only time I use the GUI are if i'm

1) Copying-pasting from another file format (like word for example)
2) Making a table for something (it's just easier to see it than to code it. DW tabe generation is fine)
3) Making image maps. Who wants to guess the damn pixel locations? Easier to click and drag.

I use it for code view, and it works great. Built in FTP and Site managment, everything is coloured appropriately, I dig it.
So most for all projects, you have used Dreamweaver?
Does Dreamweaver have consideration for all web browsers ...some of the rare ones like konqueror, etc.?
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Old Apr 6th, 2006, 7:29 AM   #13
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Old Apr 6th, 2006, 7:43 AM   #14
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Does Dreamweaver have consideration for all web browsers ...some of the rare ones like konqueror, etc.?
I have only seen information about several versions of Netscape and Internet Explorer in Dreamweaver, and I don't know if Dreamweaver supports konqueror but really the browsers are so "special". My webpage doesn't appear equal if I run it on firefox in Linux that in Windows

Anyway, I use Dreamweaver if I'm designing my web and then I use Notepad++ to code it, I think is the best way to make webpages if you know html and some scripting language like php.
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Old Apr 6th, 2006, 8:08 AM   #15
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I use Dreamweaver just because its very popular and effective with the built-in ftp. I though rather use text editor with syntax highlighting with a built-in ftp instead b/c Dreamweaver 8 runs a little slow. I really like the fact that it generates the code need for when you need a flash document on your webpage.
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If you read post #9, you will see where I indicate that one can launch the page in any browser one has installed. The built-in browser simulation sucks. I see no need to switch to another text editor when code view in Dreamweaver is a text editor. Then again, I'm not a purist who knows it's 'cool' to do things the hard way. I'm just a dinosaur who has had to consider the bottom-line throughout his career.
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If you are involved in the visual design of a site, then you will probably want to sacrifice the control pure text editing gives you because you just can't really get a visual feel in a text editor.

Coding everything by hand is all well and good if you writing a web app, a php framework, or a utility type site but it doesn't work that well for designing the feel of a site.

Usually I design the look of a page or site with Photoshop, Imageready and Dreamweaver design view. Then go into code view to fix all the compatibility problems and program that actual functions. If you have access to Dreamweaver, try desiging something then testing it out in a couple browsers, the difference in the design view and the browsers can be crazy, but it still helps more then sitting in a text editor and trying to visualize "hmm, ok I need a <div> here x many pixels wide " etc..
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If you are involved in the visual design of a site, then you will probably want to sacrifice the control pure text editing gives you because you just can't really get a visual feel in a text editor.
For a highly graphical site, I'd use a image manipulation program to design the layout, and then cut it up into pieces and convert it to HTML manually. WYSIWYG editors don't produce very good, nor semantically readable HTML.
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So most for all projects, you have used Dreamweaver?
Does Dreamweaver have consideration for all web browsers ...some of the rare ones like konqueror, etc.?
Yes I have. Dreamweaver is actually how I learned HTML, I started with the 1/2 code 1/2 graphical interface and learned like that. Now, I just use the code part. I've used dreamweaver on probably all of my projects since Dreamweaver4. It's not all that I use, but it's the one that I use the most. Most browsers will be able to read it, but you will run in to the browser incompatabilities just the same as if you were hand coding. Some things just need to be tweaked before they can work properly everywhere.

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For a highly graphical site, I'd use a image manipulation program to design the layout, and then cut it up into pieces and convert it to HTML manually. WYSIWYG editors don't produce very good, nor semantically readable HTML.
Ugh, tell me about it. Especially that crap generated by Photoshop or Imageready with the save for web. bleh
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