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Old Mar 9th, 2006, 12:41 AM   #21
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Its not like everyone at MSFT makes $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$/yr or anything... 6 figures, perhaps... over 200k, not so many... (not counting options or benefits, since I have no idea how those fit in)

And in case you hadnt noticed, just because you work for a multi-billion dollar company does not entitle you to a percentage of the companies profits (unless you own stock in it). Thats just not how it works. You get paid to work, the company makes money from your work. If you want in on the company profits, buy stock (assuming of course, that it's a public corporation).

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Yeah $400,000 seems a bit too much jayme. I heard that Microsoft hires some employees just so to keep them away from their competitors. Anyone heard anything similar?
There was the dispute between MSFT and GOOG a few months back over some employee moving from one to the other. I'm not suprised about it, and I'd be willing to bet a lot of companies have no-competition clauses in their severance contracts.
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Old Mar 9th, 2006, 7:47 AM   #22
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I would be just a little bit pissed since Bill Gates is really, really rich.
Doesn't matter. The company is public and has a legal fiduciary responsibility to its other shareholders. Pay rates shown to be irresponsible could result in certain levels of officers sitting in a jail cell or paying large fines. There is a real world out there. Some crooks escape punishment, some don't.
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Old Mar 9th, 2006, 8:01 AM   #23
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I heard that Microsoft hires some employees just so to keep them away from their competitors. Anyone heard anything similar?
I've heard that and also have heard that they buy-out small startups and incorporate them under the MS umbrella.
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And in case you hadnt noticed, just because you work for a multi-billion dollar company does not entitle you to a percentage of the companies profits (unless you own stock in it). Thats just not how it works. You get paid to work, the company makes money from your work. If you want in on the company profits, buy stock (assuming of course, that it's a public corporation).
What I'm saying is, these programmers are the ones who make that mutli-billion dollar company. If they decided they wanted to quit due to poor payrolls, MS would go down the drain. This is taking into account that no one else applied for MS for the same reason. I think those programmers should get together and start discussing their salaries.
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Again, you're totally unaware of how things work, economically, in the real world. Some successful companies are made by hard work, some by luck, timing, or decisions by outsiders. MS (and, partially, Intel) were 'made' by decisions taken by a giant company, IBM. IBM's choices were less than palatable, but they were made, and the result is what you see. Young companies often offer their employees a stake. This is generally in lieu of actual money. They can't afford them, so they ask them to take a chance. Sometimes this works out, sometimes it doesn't. I have been given stock (in lieu of money) which turned out to be a handsome payoff. I have also been given stock and options that preclude my ever having to buy toilet paper again.
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Old Mar 9th, 2006, 10:41 AM   #26
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What I'm saying is, these programmers are the ones who make that mutli-billion dollar company. If they decided they wanted to quit due to poor payrolls, MS would go down the drain. This is taking into account that no one else applied for MS for the same reason. I think those programmers should get together and start discussing their salaries.
They're Microsoft! They will just hire a fresh outta college programmer and pay him/her about 3/4 of what they are paying the other programmers who wanted a pay raise. Big companies like that can easily find people to hire!
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They're Microsoft! They will just hire a fresh outta college programmer and pay him/her about 3/4 of what they are paying the other programmers who wanted a pay raise. Big companies like that can easily find people to hire!
They have also hired some of the most Intelegent people technology wise, look at google's hireing pattern over the last two years here and scene as this is to do with money and all, over 1400 google employees are millionaires check here.

Your right about microsoft, though that was many years ago when they hired people out of high school with high IQ's. Nowdays they hire people with computer science or engineiring degrees.
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If you ever run out of exclamation points, I have some I can let you have, cheap!!!!!
yeah..i do right with a lot of !'s lol!
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Working at somewhere like Microsoft wouldn't be that great. Now somewhere like MIT or CERN... that'd be awesome.
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