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ReggaetonKing · Feb 27th, 2006, 7:11 AM

yeah, I heard BlueJ is good too. Our "Intro to Java" course in my school use BlueJ and Eclipse. I prefer Eclipse due to the fact I have tutorial books on it.

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.TD · Mar 1st, 2006, 4:01 PM

BlueJ is quite good at teaching the basics of Object Orientation, but in general a bad thing to use for anything other than that.

Text editor: Notepad2 is pretty good for Windows, I use Kate on linux at the moment, mainly as it has a build in Terminal and stuff..the novelty will probably wear off sooner or later and I will probably use Eclipse for larger projects and Vim on nix.

EDIT: by Vim I really meant gVim (just a graphical version) (prefer 6.4 to 6.6 unless its just that my 6.6 has a wierd config. :/)

Viredus · Mar 1st, 2006, 4:45 PM

My school uses MetroWerks CodeWarrior, but I am not sure if they sell it anymore.

MegaArcon · Mar 2nd, 2006, 8:25 AM

I'm a linux guy myself, so I think that vim is the way to go. Although there is a certain charm about using an IDE. Although if your teacher won't let you use ide's then really any of your basic text editors would do the trick. ^_^

Lich · Mar 2nd, 2006, 9:49 AM

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My school uses MetroWerks CodeWarrior, but I am not sure if they sell it anymore.

DOn't know about MetroWerks, but i'm almos positive they still sell CodeWarrior.

If you have the resources to do so, use an IDE. It will save you lots of headache by pointing out errors and such on the fly instead of trying to dig though a black and white text editor when trying to find a problem before it happens. When you get better you probably won't need it as much, but it will be of a great help.

ReggaetonKing · Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:07 AM

to tell you the truth, use a text editor like notepad(for windows) or w/e default application there is on your OS. That's a good way to learn how to program!

Arevos · Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:24 AM

Notepad doesn't have syntax highlighting. I think this is a bare minimum that any code editor would need to have.

ReggaetonKing · Mar 2nd, 2006, 10:45 AM

yeah, once again, Arevos is correct! I suggest Notepad++ then!

andro · Mar 2nd, 2006, 11:04 AM

I would start out with TextPad, but once you move on to larger projects Eclipse is the only way to go.

MegaArcon · Mar 2nd, 2006, 11:38 AM

I agree with the guys here, in that it's best to go with something low level with syntax highlighting. Using an ide right off the bat can kind of make a programmer lazy, in the sense that the ide has auto-correct functions.

If you use an ide like eclipse to learn to program, then you won't get to understand the errors, when to properly use try/catch blocks, all that good stuff.

Now, when you've gotten a good feel for java and understand all the guts, then using an ide, (as has been stated) for the bigger projects is a good bet. It sure is nice to have skeleton classes for an entire interface generated for you.

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.TD Programmer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	BlueJ is quite good at teaching the basics of Object Orientation, but in general a bad thing to use for anything other than that. Text editor: Notepad2 is pretty good for Windows, I use Kate on linux at the moment, mainly as it has a build in Terminal and stuff..the novelty will probably wear off sooner or later and I will probably use Eclipse for larger projects and Vim on nix. EDIT: by Vim I really meant gVim (just a graphical version) (prefer 6.4 to 6.6 unless its just that my 6.6 has a wierd config. :/) __________________ Go away before I replace you with a very small shell script. -- Get FireFox!

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ReggaetonKing Sexy Programmer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 891 Rep Power: 3	to tell you the truth, use a text editor like notepad(for windows) or w/e default application there is on your OS. That's a good way to learn how to program! __________________ I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code!

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Mar 1st, 2006, 4:45 PM	#13
Viredus Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	My school uses MetroWerks CodeWarrior, but I am not sure if they sell it anymore.

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MegaArcon Programmer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	I'm a linux guy myself, so I think that vim is the way to go. Although there is a certain charm about using an IDE. Although if your teacher won't let you use ide's then really any of your basic text editors would do the trick. ^_^

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Arevos Programming Guru Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,499 Rep Power: 4	Notepad doesn't have syntax highlighting. I think this is a bare minimum that any code editor would need to have.

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andro Professional Programmer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 290 Rep Power: 3	I would start out with TextPad, but once you move on to larger projects Eclipse is the only way to go.

Mar 2nd, 2006, 11:38 AM	#20
MegaArcon Programmer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	I agree with the guys here, in that it's best to go with something low level with syntax highlighting. Using an ide right off the bat can kind of make a programmer lazy, in the sense that the ide has auto-correct functions. If you use an ide like eclipse to learn to program, then you won't get to understand the errors, when to properly use try/catch blocks, all that good stuff. Now, when you've gotten a good feel for java and understand all the guts, then using an ide, (as has been stated) for the bigger projects is a good bet. It sure is nice to have skeleton classes for an entire interface generated for you.

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