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Indigno · Feb 24th, 2006, 11:25 AM

Look, stop acting all badass to try to look "cool". So what if it uses some features from Java? Java looks like c++, c++ looks like something else that I forgot. everthing is based off of something, and besides, if it's similar to a language you know, that makes it easier to understand. The reason for this is to combine the better parts of two very good languages and make the world a better place.

big_k105 · Feb 24th, 2006, 11:37 AM

I don't know if people are just reading the first post and getting angry but please read the whole thread before you make any comments about this original post. he has decided he C# isn't that bad of a language and might even start learning it. So please just read the whole thread before commenting on and starting another flame, Or this thread will end up locked. There is potential for a great conversation here. So let the flaming go.

peace_of_mind · Feb 24th, 2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by reggaeton_king

You know what...lol...I read more on C# and it isnt that bad at all. I am going to consider learning it! But with that in mind, should I continue with Java for now and then move on the C# or learn both at the same thing?

You could try learning both at the same time and see how that works for you. If you find it confusing hold off on C# for a bit longer. Definitely stick with Java for now. There's no need in walking away from a language you most definitely seem to feel passionate about.

Ghost · Feb 24th, 2006, 12:42 PM

The muppet has good advice.

Sysop_fb · Feb 24th, 2006, 1:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Arevos

Not all programmers know HTML, or are any good in it, so I think it's a valid observation to make. Those who go out of their way to point out other people's ignorance should be wary of throwing stones in glass houses; there's always going to be people around who know more than you do.

Very true. I don't know HTML or java heh
Have I ever bother to try and learn them? Nope, the position of needing to learn them has never confronted itself to me as of yet.

On the real subject... Well everything I was going to say has already been said.

ReggaetonKing · Feb 24th, 2006, 2:07 PM

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Originally Posted by big_k105

I don't know if people are just reading the first post and getting angry but please read the whole thread before you make any comments about this original post. he has decided he C# isn't that bad of a language and might even start learning it. So please just read the whole thread before commenting on and starting another flame, Or this thread will end up locked. There is potential for a great conversation here. So let the flaming go.

thank you Big K!

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Originally Posted by peace_of_mind

You could try learning both at the same time and see how that works for you. If you find it confusing hold off on C# for a bit longer. Definitely stick with Java for now. There's no need in walking away from a language you most definitely seem to feel passionate about.

I am not saying anyone said it but do you think or anyone think C#'s lifespam will be huge like C or C++ will. I heard different things about Java so I'm not going to even go there!

Arevos · Feb 24th, 2006, 2:21 PM

I think it's too early to tell. I think C# could outlast Java, but it depends on how complete Mono becomes. Microsoft can't get the same level of popularity as Java without having a crossplatform virtual machine. But on the other hand, having a crossplatform virtual machine significantly weakens Microsoft's monopoly unless it deliberately makes some elements of .NET Windows-only with closed APIs.

I'm not sure whether Microsoft will accept a reduced level of control in return for a larger market.

ReggaetonKing · Feb 24th, 2006, 3:59 PM

well as people said before, C# "gets" its syntax and style from Java which "gets" from C++ who got it from C. Now with C & C++ being the most popular languages out their, shouldn't C# be number 1? I mean it have that rapid GUI builder and has a lot of similarities of the other popular languages. Because it's not cross-platform?

Arevos · Feb 24th, 2006, 5:11 PM

There are a few problems with C# that prevent it from overtaking Java:

1. It's new; this means that it doesn't have the range of libraries and tools Java and C++ have.
2. It's not completely cross-platform. Mono's doing some good work, but it doesn't have a 100% compatability rate.
3. It's by Microsoft. Whatever the technical merits of C#, this will always put some people off. Microsoft have a history of "embrace and extend", which makes some developers nervous.

ReggaetonKing · Feb 24th, 2006, 5:45 PM

@Averos

think Java's lifespam will be long as C / C++?

Feb 24th, 2006, 11:37 AM	#42
big_k105 PFO Founder Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 1,650 Rep Power: 10	I don't know if people are just reading the first post and getting angry but please read the whole thread before you make any comments about this original post. he has decided he C# isn't that bad of a language and might even start learning it. So please just read the whole thread before commenting on and starting another flame, Or this thread will end up locked. There is potential for a great conversation here. So let the flaming go. __________________ BIG K aka Kyle Programming Forums Kyle K Online Please do not PM or email me programming questions. Post them in the forums instead.

Feb 24th, 2006, 12:42 PM	#44
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Feb 24th, 2006, 3:59 PM	#48
ReggaetonKing Sexy Programmer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 891 Rep Power: 3	well as people said before, C# "gets" its syntax and style from Java which "gets" from C++ who got it from C. Now with C & C++ being the most popular languages out their, shouldn't C# be number 1? I mean it have that rapid GUI builder and has a lot of similarities of the other popular languages. Because it's not cross-platform? __________________ I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code!

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ReggaetonKing Sexy Programmer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 891 Rep Power: 3	@Averos think Java's lifespam will be long as C / C++? __________________ I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code!

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Feb 24th, 2006, 11:25 AM	#41
Indigno Professional Programmer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anywhere non-productive Posts: 267 Rep Power: 0	Look, stop acting all badass to try to look "cool". So what if it uses some features from Java? Java looks like c++, c++ looks like something else that I forgot. everthing is based off of something, and besides, if it's similar to a language you know, that makes it easier to understand. The reason for this is to combine the better parts of two very good languages and make the world a better place.

Feb 24th, 2006, 2:21 PM	#47
Arevos Programming Guru Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,499 Rep Power: 5	I think it's too early to tell. I think C# could outlast Java, but it depends on how complete Mono becomes. Microsoft can't get the same level of popularity as Java without having a crossplatform virtual machine. But on the other hand, having a crossplatform virtual machine significantly weakens Microsoft's monopoly unless it deliberately makes some elements of .NET Windows-only with closed APIs. I'm not sure whether Microsoft will accept a reduced level of control in return for a larger market.

Feb 24th, 2006, 5:11 PM	#49
Arevos Programming Guru Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,499 Rep Power: 5	There are a few problems with C# that prevent it from overtaking Java: 1. It's new; this means that it doesn't have the range of libraries and tools Java and C++ have. 2. It's not completely cross-platform. Mono's doing some good work, but it doesn't have a 100% compatability rate. 3. It's by Microsoft. Whatever the technical merits of C#, this will always put some people off. Microsoft have a history of "embrace and extend", which makes some developers nervous.

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C# is a rip off!!