DaWei

Evaporation of threads, as from the C++ Documentation topic, is not censorship practiced as suppression of information. It's editorial contol of off-topic posts which dilute the effectiveness of a thread that has a real purpose. Those posts aren't deleted; they're unhooked. If you want to see them, request Big K to make a thread for them and reattach them. The situation wouldn't even have arisen if the off-topic posts hadn't been made. I'm as guilty as anyone at tossing unmeaningful posts into a thread as asides, humor, or whatever. Let's all try to keep that crap here in the lounge and stay on-topic in the serious threads (I grant finding the seriousness can sometimes be problematic).

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peace_of_mind

Very well said. A lot of fat does need trimming from amongst otherwise productive threads, and the majority of us are guilty of that from time to time.

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OpenLoop

Regardless if my or other evaporated posts where out of topic or not, you can't just take it out like that. You can replace the CONTENT of the post with an explanation why it was "unhooked" which can serve as a message for off topic posters.


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DaWei

If your post was relevant to the C++ Documentation topic, it belongs there. If not, it belongs elsewhere. The fact that you consider effort applied to the C++ Documentation project to be "silly" because some other project went south, or was ill-managed, is entirely beside the point and NOT relevant to that thread, as content. Start a new topic if you think people's decision to partake in some other project is stupid.

EDIT: I see you've edited out the part about reposting there, so consider this an edit to remove my opinion on that. I won't actually delete it, as that introduces inexplicable discontinuity (as evidenced by the loss of meaning because part of your post is gone).

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tempest

I didn't feel the need for 6 posts to edit and add explanations... so i posted my own after removing the posts. If you have a problem with it try talking about Element in a forum that is not for the discussion of the C++ web documentation project. I hope at any time TCL would remove anything about the C++ project in his forums that he thought should have been posted in mine.

Like DaWei has said, they have not been removed just unlinked to the thread, big_k, sykkn, pizentios, mjordan2nd or any other of the people with super moderator access can put them into a new thread within Element's forum.

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OpenLoop

I did not talk about element. I merely used it as an example as how we already have a project that went south, why are we working on a new one?!

The point here is , why are we working on a new one!

Get my old post back and look at it closely before bitching about it.

peace_of_mind

Posting about one project in the other's forum is as productive as posting a C++ problem in the assembly forum. It's not beneficial to anyone. It waters down the forums and distracts others that wish to read over said forums. And if the purpose of the posts was simply to complain about a lack of participation in another forum/project then why bother? No one is obligated to participate in anything. Leave the pointless threads for the lounge or a blog...

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DaWei

We are working on a new one because of number of us consider it a worthwhile investment of effort. It's voluntary. The fact that I never had anything to do with Element is quite beside the point -- I don't care to contribute my time to it, and I don't care to be prevented from some other effort just because your investment in Element is beginning to look wasted, or less than maximally effective, to you. If someone tanks the C++ Documentation project, you may take it to the bank that I will not redirect my efforts towards Element. Waste of time plumping for it.

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Element is not gone. People are still working on it. The people working on the 2 different projects are not the same people. Most of the C++ Documentation people are not working on the element project and vise versa. The C++ Documenation project is also not a community project that was decided on by the community here. Tempest decided he wanted to do it and asked if anyone here would want to help. The only reason there is a forum here for it is because since most if not all the people working on it belong to Programming Forums so i offered to give them a forum for it so they wouldn't have to take it to another forum and start from scratch at finding people to help. Now they have members here and any new members who would like to join can if they want.

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OpenLoop

I don't care what you care about or don't and it's not up to you to decide whether my time is being wasted trying to accelerate the development of element. I have the right to speak my mind and you have the right not to listen.

So element is the official community project at this time. Just checking.
I didn't intend to bash C++ Doc project, i was defending my "evaporated" post that was misenterpreted and unhooked for no good reason. All I wanted to know is why they're working on a new project when we already have one. Now I know but not because some arrogant people called me "asshole" for questionning their project, instead, because some explanation was provided.