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Oct 8th, 2005, 10:55 PM
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Check This New Searchengine Concept Out !
Hello Folks !
I need your opinions on a concept. Please do not fool around but honestly give your opinions because if your opinions seem all positive then I am thinking of running such a venture mentioned below. Also, please forward everyone you know (on the internet) to this post so I can also gather their opinions. My Idea : When other searchengines send you visitors there is no guarantee that every visitor they send you will buy something from you. If they leave your website without buying anything from you or leaving their email-address to you then you never get the chance to contact them and ask how you can help them to make them buy from you and not from your competitions. I am thinking of running a searchengine where if you list your link on it then my searchengine will track who we are sending to your website and then give you the chance to contact the visitor. This is good for you because if that visitor left your website without buying anything from you then now you get a chance to turn this round. My 1st question : Is this a good idea ? Likewise, my searchengine will track who we are sending to your competitions' websites and then give you the chance to contact their visitors. This is good for you because if that visitor left your competition's website without buying anything from them then now you get a chance to turn this visitor into your own customer. My 2nd question : Is this a good idea ? I know that, you have a question how the tracking will be done to trace and contact your own website visitors and those of your competitions. Well, I am not going to reveal all my trade secrets here because I don't want other searchengines competing with me. All I can say is that, my searchengine won't be installing any spywares on my searchengine users PCs nor cookies to track and trace them. My users can have all the spyware detectors they like but not a single one of them will ever alert them that my searchengine is installing spywares on their PCs. Also, I believe, you have another question, why would any of my users allow my searchengine to keep records of what websites they surf and why would they give my searchengine the permission for it to forward commercial company's ads to them ? Well, again I am not going to reveal all my trade secrets here because I don't want other searchengines competing with me. All I want from you is to forget seeing things from my searchengine user's point of view but see things from your point of view as some-one who lists his website on my searchengine. Let me worry about how to attract such users. Now, my 3rd question is : would my searchengine service be valuable to commercial websites like your's ? I mean, how much would you charge (if you was in my position running my searchengine) to give a website the tools to contact their own and competitions' websites' visitors ? SCENARIO Let's assume that your website is listed on my searchengine. I would provide you the following services. Let me know, if they would ve valuable to websites like you or not. FIRST SERVICE : I would show you stats : a). who visited your website and b). when and c). what webpages he/she visited (so you can learn their tastes and find-out which webpage made them leave). And for this record, I would charge you 5 cents per visitor. So, if I show you record of 2 visitors, my charges would be 10 cents. Now, if you contact one of these visitors (for feed-back, offers, etc.), I would charge you $1 to forward your 5-line ad to the visitor. Do you reckon my price is too cheap ? My 4th question is : What's the maximum do you think I can stretch to but still have people like you paying to use this particular service by the tonnes ? SECOND SERVICE : I would show you stats : a). who visited their website and b). when and c). what webpages he/she visited (so you can learn their tastes and find-out which webpage made them leave). And for this, I would charge you 10 cents per visitor. So, if I show you record of 2 visitors, my charges would be 20 cents (double to what I would charge you if you was contacting your own visitor). Now, if you contact one of these visitors, I would charge you $2 (double to what I would charge you if you was contacting your own visitor) to forward your 5-line ad to the visitor. Do you reckon my price is too cheap ? My 5th question is : what's the maximum do you think I can stretch to but still have people like you paying to use this particular service by the tonnes ? YOUR CONCLUSION : Would you list your website on my searchengine knowing that I would allow your competitions to contact your website visitors (those whom my searchengine sends to your website) ? If you don't, then you too won't be in a position to do the same to your competitions who will be listed on my searchengine. It's upto you now. Frankly, if I was you, I wouldn't mind if my competitions lure my visitors to their order forms because these visitors already left my website without making any purchases anyway. So, what have I really got to lose ? Frankly, I'd have something to gain because now I'd be in a position to do the same to my competitions. YOUR DEAD CONCLUSION : Now, imagine that, a visitor is browsing your competition's website and at that time my searchengine gives you the chance LIVE to see what webpages the visitor is browsing at the moment (so you can learn his/her taste) on your competition's website and then when the visitor is about to click to your competition's order form, my searchengine gives you the chance to buzz them to distract them from making the order and also gives you the chance to make an offer (so you can make an offer with a better bargain than your competition), then would you use this service knowing that your competitions would be in the same position to do the same to your own website visitors ? It's upto you now. Would you really list your website on my searchengine and have the risk of having your competitions snatching your "likely-hood customers" like this from your order form just so that you too can have the same advantage over your competitions in a similar manner ? If you would, then upto how much are you willing to pay my searchengine to give you the advantage to buzz your competition's visitors from their order forms like this to your own LIVE offers ? I mean, what's the maximum do you think I can stretch to but still have people like you using this particular service by the tonnes ? Thanx
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Oct 8th, 2005, 11:07 PM
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Why is this different from spyware / adware ?
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Oct 8th, 2005, 11:11 PM
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Thats too expensive dude. Plus sending commercial sites that kind of info about visitors is kinda violating their privacy. I would not sign up for that if I were a search engine user (which I am). Not to mention I wouldnt read through any emails expecialy if I didnt like what I saw on the website in the first place. This idea is nicely presented but I think it sucks.
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Oct 8th, 2005, 11:16 PM
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Holy shit:
what the _!*@: this is like super spyware++: a new low in degrading your online experienceIf you go through with it, i have to say -- i'll wait in line with thousands of other people to excrete things onto your grave. The only goal this site would accomplish is further destroying the internet experience for the internet users and increasing the reputation of companies that helped in this process as unrespectful. People like you are what is wrong with the internet today
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Oct 8th, 2005, 11:21 PM
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Oct 9th, 2005, 12:14 AM
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Yeah... um.... No.
Really, really no. So much no, i really have nothing to say but No. There are so many fantastic arguments against somthing like this, but the idea is just so bad, evil, and wrong, that its blown my mind and I cant think of anything but NO. |
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Oct 9th, 2005, 12:25 AM
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a search engine that gives my personal info to every site i visit? dude, no. no. after reading that first concept i scrolled down as fast as i could before i saw anything else that would make me dumber for reading it. hell, am i going to have to start reading posts in a mirror to keep from turning into stone, or worse yet, a "pillar of shit"? how about a free international database of credit card numbers? maybe you should get into porn sites, or spyware development. better yet, just start coming over to people's homes and take a shit on their keyboard. WTF!?!
??? is this a joke? yeah, it's neat for business-oriented sites, but believe me, you'd get so much bad press on the net about this that nobody would use your site ever again, and may even sue you. this is the exact kind of shit people change their email addresses over. BAD, BAD, BAD idea.
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Oct 9th, 2005, 12:28 AM
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This has got to be seriously the stupidest, most under-fucking-handed idea I've ever heard. Your right to use the internet should be taken away immediately so that you have no chance of ever progressing to any point further than pre-conception with this idea.
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Oct 9th, 2005, 8:20 AM
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OK, this is why we pass laws. To prevent people single-handedly destroying the Internet.
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Oct 9th, 2005, 8:36 AM
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I especially liked the part about "buzzing" a user just as they are about to make a purchase. How can you justify doing stuff like that just to make money? Are you familiar with the concept of "business ethics?" Do a quick google search- don't worry, they won't tell anyone which sites you visited.
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