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iignotus · Sep 11th, 2005, 1:59 PM

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Well maybe if i could pull your question out of my arse from it's incorrect context, then we would be set.... what are you asking?

For the fourth time (did you not read any of the other three?), it's the same question as it has been: 'Why are you using that html tag to display the text of the forum post?'. I don't know if it was a design concept or a design flaw that grimpirate simply didn't print the text in a <span> or <div> like most everyone else.

tempest · Sep 11th, 2005, 2:30 PM

I can read fine, i just can't understand uncoherent blather about an unclear question.

The reasoning for putting it in an iframe most likely is so that one post can't take up too much space on the page. By allowing each post to take up a certain amount of allocated space in an iframe, it keeps the page (and posts) more legible. This could have also been done with a div with set height and/or width while using the CSS attribute "overflow: auto;".

iignotus · Sep 11th, 2005, 4:06 PM

Your impression of incoherency is most likely due to your inability to recognise simple statements and logically connect words in order to understand someone else's question.

The post's possible length should not be overcome by something as rudimentary as an <iframe>, since that is a visually unattractive way to do something like keeping the thread 'clean' or limiting the text shown at one time. Particularly in this implementation, the border around the iframe (which can be removed) as well as the inherent scrollbar (which shouldn't be removed) makes it a less attractive option than including the text inline with the rest of the post.

I'm not sure if your immaturity or ignorance is to blame for your rudeness, but it would be much appreciated if you could think before posting in future ventures.

I applaud your work as well, grimpirate, as my only question was a simple one, and neutral regarding the quality of your work. I look forward to future work on it, as you're doing well so far. The colors did need a tweak though.

linuxpimp20 · Sep 11th, 2005, 5:29 PM

thanks for the code grim. It seems your not unwilling to share your code - are the files you mentioned also on your site for download? People might download it to steal it which is lame on their part but i'd like to download it to review it and hack at it. Me and my friend are thinking of doing a community site but want to make the forum ourselves to learn how to do it.

tempest · Sep 12th, 2005, 9:15 AM

iignotus, I don't have much to say in response to your ignorant perception of "rudeness" as i was merely responding to your rude comments. However, i'll end this post with askingL why is an iframe with a border and scrollbar are unattractive to you in a forum? It seems perfectly logical to me, and by your definition your signature is "an unattractive way to do things" with really large text.

Infinite Recursion · Sep 12th, 2005, 1:43 PM

Looks good...

iignotus · Sep 12th, 2005, 1:55 PM

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i'll end this post with askingL why is an iframe with a border and scrollbar are unattractive to you in a forum? It seems perfectly logical to me

That's purely my opinion (well, not just mine, but opinion nonetheless).

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by your definition your signature is "an unattractive way to do things" with really large text.

This coming from someone with a bunch of annoying emoticons in their sig. Way to be. Also, I wasn't rude in a single one of my posts before you initiated a slurring competition, and I'd like you to attempt to point out where I was -- I can quote numerous time where you were.

Grow up kid

grimpirate · Sep 12th, 2005, 6:23 PM

The files themselves aren't actually available for download on the website, but that's the raw source code. All you gotta do is copy and paste that into Notepad and save it with a '.php' extension and you can hack away at it all you like. I don't mind sharing my source code, fact is I wish more people did it. I would hope people would at least hook me up with a link back to my site though, but s'ok if they don't. The search engine there is also written in php.

By the way, the reason I used the iframes was 'cause I just wasn't smart enough to code it any other way

I had the problem where I couldn't split text or images and so it just bugged me visually and that was the way I came up with to solve it, and it worked fine soooooo... that's how it stayed.

Yeah the coloring on my site isn't good but it's that way for a particular reason, not necessarily a good one, but a reason nonetheless.

Also, I'd like to NOT use text files but as I explained perviously my FREE server doesn't allow me access to any database, so I'm forced to use a text file. The way I overcame the time problem was by applying a timestamp to each of the files. I would imagine the possibility of two people posting at the exact same time based on SECONDS accuracy is very VERY small.

DaWei · Sep 12th, 2005, 7:01 PM

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I would imagine the possibility of two people posting at the exact same time based on SECONDS accuracy is very VERY small.

Depends on the traffic, of course.

If you think about it, DBs are just files. The authors have tweaked them within an inch of their life, performance-wise, but they have the very same problems to overcome. They're actually inefficient if you don't need a DB's characteristics.

One alternative to pure text files, if you need predictable organization and a certain degree of compatibility, is XML. Again, if you don't need DBs, or if you don't have the capability available, there's nothing wrong with a flat text file, presuming you deal with concurrency problems.

tempest · Sep 12th, 2005, 7:15 PM

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Originally Posted by iignotus

Thanks for the repetitive scrutiny though. The same question is still there, if anyone would like to be helpful and answer it.

.....

Sep 11th, 2005, 2:30 PM	#22
tempest Programming Guru Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,041 Rep Power: 5	I can read fine, i just can't understand uncoherent blather about an unclear question. The reasoning for putting it in an iframe most likely is so that one post can't take up too much space on the page. By allowing each post to take up a certain amount of allocated space in an iframe, it keeps the page (and posts) more legible. This could have also been done with a div with set height and/or width while using the CSS attribute "overflow: auto;". __________________

Sep 11th, 2005, 4:06 PM	#23
iignotus Professional Programmer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nowhere Special Posts: 466 Rep Power: 4	Your impression of incoherency is most likely due to your inability to recognise simple statements and logically connect words in order to understand someone else's question. The post's possible length should not be overcome by something as rudimentary as an <iframe>, since that is a visually unattractive way to do something like keeping the thread 'clean' or limiting the text shown at one time. Particularly in this implementation, the border around the iframe (which can be removed) as well as the inherent scrollbar (which shouldn't be removed) makes it a less attractive option than including the text inline with the rest of the post. I'm not sure if your immaturity or ignorance is to blame for your rudeness, but it would be much appreciated if you could think before posting in future ventures. I applaud your work as well, grimpirate, as my only question was a simple one, and neutral regarding the quality of your work. I look forward to future work on it, as you're doing well so far. The colors did need a tweak though. __________________ (Toggle Plain Text) % rc4 hexkey < input > output #define S ,t=s[i],s[i]=s[j],s[j]=t /* rc4 hexkey <file / unsigned char k[256],s[256],i,j,t;main(c,v,e)charv;{++v;while(++i)s[ i]=i;for(c=0;(v)++;k[c++]=e)sscanf((v)++-1,"%2x",&e);while(j+=s[i] +k[i%c]S,++i);for(j=0;c=~getchar();putchar(~c^s[t+=s[i]]))j+=s[++i]S;}

Sep 12th, 2005, 9:15 AM	#25
tempest Programming Guru Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,041 Rep Power: 5	iignotus, I don't have much to say in response to your ignorant perception of "rudeness" as i was merely responding to your rude comments. However, i'll end this post with askingL why is an iframe with a border and scrollbar are unattractive to you in a forum? It seems perfectly logical to me, and by your definition your signature is "an unattractive way to do things" with really large text. __________________

Sep 12th, 2005, 1:43 PM	#26
Infinite Recursion Programming Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3,464 Rep Power: 8	Looks good... __________________ http://jasonpowers.net "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."

Sep 12th, 2005, 6:23 PM	#28
grimpirate King of Portal Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 402 Rep Power: 3	The files themselves aren't actually available for download on the website, but that's the raw source code. All you gotta do is copy and paste that into Notepad and save it with a '.php' extension and you can hack away at it all you like. I don't mind sharing my source code, fact is I wish more people did it. I would hope people would at least hook me up with a link back to my site though, but s'ok if they don't. The search engine there is also written in php. By the way, the reason I used the iframes was 'cause I just wasn't smart enough to code it any other way I had the problem where I couldn't split text or images and so it just bugged me visually and that was the way I came up with to solve it, and it worked fine soooooo... that's how it stayed. Yeah the coloring on my site isn't good but it's that way for a particular reason, not necessarily a good one, but a reason nonetheless. Also, I'd like to NOT use text files but as I explained perviously my FREE server doesn't allow me access to any database, so I'm forced to use a text file. The way I overcame the time problem was by applying a timestamp to each of the files. I would imagine the possibility of two people posting at the exact same time based on SECONDS accuracy is very VERY small. __________________ Lo, there do I see my father. 'Lo, there do I see My mother, and my sisters, and my brothers. 'Lo, there do I see The line of my people... Back to the beginning. 'Lo, they do call to me. They bid me take my place among them. In the halls of Valhalla... Where the brave... May live... ...forever.. GrimBB \| Mimesis

Sep 11th, 2005, 5:29 PM	#24
linuxpimp20 Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: May 2005 Location: ma Posts: 130 Rep Power: 4	thanks for the code grim. It seems your not unwilling to share your code - are the files you mentioned also on your site for download? People might download it to steal it which is lame on their part but i'd like to download it to review it and hack at it. Me and my friend are thinking of doing a community site but want to make the forum ourselves to learn how to do it.

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