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Sep 4th, 2005, 6:53 AM
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?Best assembler to start with
What assembler I should start with?
TASM || MASM32 ? I worked a little with TASM, but I see that many bigger projects use MASM32. I don't want to learn 32 bit assembly and make .exes without experience in good ol' .com . 32-bit assembly is much more complicated... has include files... ... requires some knowledge of 16-bit assembly. ... and one question: Can I make 16-bit assembly programs with MASM? |
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Sep 4th, 2005, 10:38 AM
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If you really want to write 16 Bits .com, you should give a try to A86.
Nevertheless, your opinion about what is "more complicated" is, exactely, the reverse of the real facts (Win32 Asm is _WAY_ easier than Dos Programming). You should really try NASM, FASM or RosAsm (TASM is dead since ages, and MASM is the worst possible choice). Betov. < http://rosasm.org > |
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Sep 4th, 2005, 10:46 AM
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NASM from sourceforge. Free and opensource, and has an online community.
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Sep 4th, 2005, 11:09 AM
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NASM seconded. It's the best.
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% rc4 hexkey < input > output
#define S ,t=s[i],s[i]=s[j],s[j]=t /* rc4 hexkey <file */
unsigned char k[256],s[256],i,j,t;main(c,v,e)char**v;{++v;while(++i)s[
i]=i;for(c=0;*(*v)++;k[c++]=e)sscanf((*v)++-1,"%2x",&e);while(j+=s[i]
+k[i%c]S,++i);for(j=0;c=~getchar();putchar(~c^s[t+=s[i]]))j+=s[++i]S;} |
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Sep 4th, 2005, 12:02 PM
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As usual, I recommend MASM32. There is a huge user base along with a plethora of examples.
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Sep 4th, 2005, 12:11 PM
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i personally like AT&T assembler more..
EDIT: w00t, 250 posts  |
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Sep 4th, 2005, 12:47 PM
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lostcauz,
just one question... i saw that MASM32 has IF, While and those things... Is MASM32 HLA? |
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Sep 4th, 2005, 1:13 PM
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MASM and HLA are not the same. The constructs you mention are in MASM for easing the transition from a hll to asm. You may use them or ignore them.
If you are unsure about which assembler to try why not download a few and try them for a short time and see which one seems more fitting? MASM, FASM and NASM might be a good start. I'm not familiar with Betov's product.
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Sep 4th, 2005, 1:21 PM
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And don't forget AS
, it's included with GCC. |
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Sep 4th, 2005, 1:27 PM
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Okay, I'll try them...
I currently have TASM 5. It's very old, but i like it. It's maybe most easy assembler. MASM32 attracts me becouse it is most powerfull and has big community. Look at this : http://www.hostileencounter.com/ Whole RTS written in MASM. |
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