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skuinders · Jun 16th, 2005, 11:28 AM

http://www.freeprogrammingresources.com/

and I have links to some tutorials on my site here: http://web.bryant.edu/~srk2/pages/computers.html

welcome to the jungle

megamind5005 · Jun 16th, 2005, 12:44 PM

hey, man, i'm 16 too, and i'd suggest python. from what i've read, heard and come to know, python is really simple, almost as good as anything else you might choose for beginner to intermediate stuff and its a good start in general. Not like VB, AVOID VISUAL BASIC, is what everyone told me. they said it teaches u bad habits what with everything being done for you by the interface and it's not strict enough (or something).
So yeah, Python.
Check those links that big_k sent, thats how i decided on my programming life. and DEFNINTELY learn HTML, its as easy as it gets but really useful. Try some CSS after that; in fact it's so simple u ca learn it at the same time as HTML (to be honest it's just like writing sentences telling a browser what do to but without "is"'s and "are"'s and "do"'s). one really good book is "HTML for the World Wide Web with XHTML and CSS" by Elizabeth Castro (see amazon). I'm reading that ATM and it's brill.

well, there u go, there's my advice

foxcity911 · Jun 27th, 2005, 4:48 AM

why dont you do ipt or something in high school. they usually give you html, and then php to build on, that would be a good start.
html is very easy, so start there.
download Microsoft Front Page, and then once you're competent, download php4 or easyphp and incorporate some php into it.

uman · Jun 27th, 2005, 5:24 AM

?!?!

Since when is HTML considered a programming language? It teaches you nothing about programming. That's like saying taking a piss teaches you about plumbing.

kirkl_uk · Jun 27th, 2005, 5:55 AM

I agree with uman, but less agressively

. HTML teaches you nothing about programmingm - programming is logical, and HTML is not. Maybe you could incorporate javascript into HTML to learn that.

foxcity911 · Jun 27th, 2005, 8:27 AM

its always best to know some html before you learn a programming language like php. you cant go and tell some kid to learn php or java unless they have some sort of coding knowledge.

uman · Jun 28th, 2005, 5:01 AM

Obviously HTML is a prerequisite to the PHP Hypertext Preprocessor, that proves nothing. Not so for Java. What does knowing HTML teach you about "coding knowledge" anyway? I only know a very tiny bit of HTML and I can still program in C++ just fine.

Oh, and last I checked Java is a world-renowned teaching language. In any case teaching programming with Java is better than teaching it with a content-presentation system.

Do you see my point? Calling HTML programming is like calling PowerPoint programming. Just because you have to use a text editor does NOT make it programming.

megamind5005 · Jun 28th, 2005, 12:45 PM

I think foxcity meant to put JavaSCRIPT, uman, excuse him this slip of the fingers ...
and on the subject of programming, I do agree (X)HTML and CSS arent programming languages but almost every programmer is expected to be able to read and understand them so, u know, i think everyone should start there.

And i'm sticking to my suggestion of python, GO, PYTHON!

http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/ is excellent for beginners.

bl00dninja · Jul 7th, 2005, 6:30 PM

well, i don't know the best way to go, but i started with html, moved on to javascript, then to java and then c/c++. each language got me interested in the next.

BlazingWolf · Jul 8th, 2005, 2:55 AM

Learn XHTML & CSS. Skip HTML because XHTML will be the new standard and HTML will teach you bad habits. Such as using font tags. Go from there depending on what you want to do. Desktop or web.

Jun 16th, 2005, 11:28 AM	#11
skuinders Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MA, US Posts: 204 Rep Power: 4	http://www.freeprogrammingresources.com/ and I have links to some tutorials on my site here: http://web.bryant.edu/~srk2/pages/computers.html welcome to the jungle __________________ "A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconciously translates what he hears into something he can understand." - B. Russell http://web.bryant.edu/~srk2 Last edited by skuinders; Jun 16th, 2005 at 12:37 PM.

Jun 27th, 2005, 5:24 AM	#14
uman Expert Programmer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 794 Rep Power: 4	?!?! Since when is HTML considered a programming language? It teaches you nothing about programming. That's like saying taking a piss teaches you about plumbing. __________________ Few people deserve to be compared to (Rush) Limbaugh, most of them were convicted at the Nuremburg trials. --WilliamSChips on Slashdot

Jun 27th, 2005, 5:55 AM	#15
kirkl_uk Programmer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England Posts: 86 Rep Power: 4	I agree with uman, but less agressively . HTML teaches you nothing about programmingm - programming is logical, and HTML is not. Maybe you could incorporate javascript into HTML to learn that. __________________ kirkl_uk

Jun 28th, 2005, 5:01 AM	#17
uman Expert Programmer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 794 Rep Power: 4	Obviously HTML is a prerequisite to the PHP Hypertext Preprocessor, that proves nothing. Not so for Java. What does knowing HTML teach you about "coding knowledge" anyway? I only know a very tiny bit of HTML and I can still program in C++ just fine. Oh, and last I checked Java is a world-renowned teaching language. In any case teaching programming with Java is better than teaching it with a content-presentation system. Do you see my point? Calling HTML programming is like calling PowerPoint programming. Just because you have to use a text editor does NOT make it programming. __________________ Few people deserve to be compared to (Rush) Limbaugh, most of them were convicted at the Nuremburg trials. --WilliamSChips on Slashdot

Jun 28th, 2005, 12:45 PM	#18
megamind5005 Programmer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK Posts: 53 Rep Power: 4	I think foxcity meant to put JavaSCRIPT, uman, excuse him this slip of the fingers ... and on the subject of programming, I do agree (X)HTML and CSS arent programming languages but almost every programmer is expected to be able to read and understand them so, u know, i think everyone should start there. And i'm sticking to my suggestion of python, GO, PYTHON! http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/ is excellent for beginners. __________________ Tetris is so unrealistic

Jun 16th, 2005, 12:44 PM	#12
megamind5005 Programmer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK Posts: 53 Rep Power: 4	hey, man, i'm 16 too, and i'd suggest python. from what i've read, heard and come to know, python is really simple, almost as good as anything else you might choose for beginner to intermediate stuff and its a good start in general. Not like VB, AVOID VISUAL BASIC, is what everyone told me. they said it teaches u bad habits what with everything being done for you by the interface and it's not strict enough (or something). So yeah, Python. Check those links that big_k sent, thats how i decided on my programming life. and DEFNINTELY learn HTML, its as easy as it gets but really useful. Try some CSS after that; in fact it's so simple u ca learn it at the same time as HTML (to be honest it's just like writing sentences telling a browser what do to but without "is"'s and "are"'s and "do"'s). one really good book is "HTML for the World Wide Web with XHTML and CSS" by Elizabeth Castro (see amazon). I'm reading that ATM and it's brill. well, there u go, there's my advice

Jun 27th, 2005, 4:48 AM	#13
foxcity911 Programmer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Queensland Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	why dont you do ipt or something in high school. they usually give you html, and then php to build on, that would be a good start. html is very easy, so start there. download Microsoft Front Page, and then once you're competent, download php4 or easyphp and incorporate some php into it.

Jun 27th, 2005, 8:27 AM	#16
foxcity911 Programmer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Queensland Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	its always best to know some html before you learn a programming language like php. you cant go and tell some kid to learn php or java unless they have some sort of coding knowledge.

Jul 7th, 2005, 6:30 PM	#19
bl00dninja Programming Guru Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: namespace std Posts: 1,246 Rep Power: 6	well, i don't know the best way to go, but i started with html, moved on to javascript, then to java and then c/c++. each language got me interested in the next. __________________ i put on my robe and wizard hat... Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?...Morons.

Jul 8th, 2005, 2:55 AM	#20
BlazingWolf Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 207 Rep Power: 5	Learn XHTML & CSS. Skip HTML because XHTML will be the new standard and HTML will teach you bad habits. Such as using font tags. Go from there depending on what you want to do. Desktop or web. __________________ _______________________________ BlazingWolf

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