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tribaldog · May 5th, 2005, 3:21 PM

this is really a newbie question..
what's the difference between visual c++ and visual c++ .net ? Are they same ? i'm learning c++ write now but i want to switch to visual c++.. but i'm really confused. with the topics like mfc, win32, window programming.. and is window programming done in console or programs like visual basic.. and if it's so easy programming in vb then why learn the console way.. typing each code..

thx

OpenLoop · May 5th, 2005, 3:56 PM

you need a book to answer that question

I can tell you that Visual C++ .NET allows you create programs for the .NET
framework. This kind of programs will only execute on machines with the .NET
framework installed.

BTW, there is no significant difference in syntax between c++ and c++.NET

uman · May 5th, 2005, 4:55 PM

You can also write regular C++ code with Visual C++ .net. The .net framework is only an option

MrSmiley · May 5th, 2005, 5:17 PM

I prefer the C++ VS6 versus the VS .Net because a lot of the premade headers are modified a bit differently like fstream. Oh man did it really fuck up fstream. Anyways, that is my 2cents. VS6 works better with legacy.

Dameon · May 5th, 2005, 5:40 PM

Yes, if you want to do straight C++ pick up VC6 for cheap. Managed extensions for C++ aren't my cup of tea. Such a mess. If you do want VC++ .net, see if you can get the 2003 edition. The 2005 edition is...a turn for the worst.

</2cents>

bl00dninja · May 5th, 2005, 5:44 PM

just pick a language or an IDE. you can do anything with C++. if you want to be a part of microsoft's virtually intertwining of technologies then .NET is the way to go. for platform independance just use VC6. (you can do either with the new one, just worry about portability on non-windows systems)

Ooble · May 6th, 2005, 5:49 AM

Please, don't use Visual C++ 6. If you don't want .NET, go with Dev-C++.

tribaldog · May 6th, 2005, 12:52 PM

ummm thanks guyz... well i'm interested in just doing straight c++ programs right now.. i understand the .net thing. but i'm still confused about the windows programming...
i wanna make some program in windows. And i see a lot of code written just to make a simple window but the thing is if i use Visual Basic then i don't even have to write anything. where else in win32 programming.. i have to write and memorize all those little things which just gets complicated line by line. so what is the thing about writing a good program.. use Vb. vc++ or straight win32 prog..

thanks

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tribaldog Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	visual c++ and .net this is really a newbie question.. what's the difference between visual c++ and visual c++ .net ? Are they same ? i'm learning c++ write now but i want to switch to visual c++.. but i'm really confused. with the topics like mfc, win32, window programming.. and is window programming done in console or programs like visual basic.. and if it's so easy programming in vb then why learn the console way.. typing each code.. thx

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May 5th, 2005, 3:56 PM	#2
OpenLoop Expert Programmer Join Date: May 2005 Location: East Lansing, MI Posts: 663 Rep Power: 4	you need a book to answer that question I can tell you that Visual C++ .NET allows you create programs for the .NET framework. This kind of programs will only execute on machines with the .NET framework installed. BTW, there is no significant difference in syntax between c++ and c++.NET

May 5th, 2005, 4:55 PM	#3
uman Expert Programmer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 794 Rep Power: 4	You can also write regular C++ code with Visual C++ .net. The .net framework is only an option

May 5th, 2005, 5:17 PM	#4
MrSmiley Programmer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 41 Rep Power: 0	I prefer the C++ VS6 versus the VS .Net because a lot of the premade headers are modified a bit differently like fstream. Oh man did it really fuck up fstream. Anyways, that is my 2cents. VS6 works better with legacy.

May 5th, 2005, 5:40 PM	#5
Dameon Troll Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 732 Rep Power: 4	Yes, if you want to do straight C++ pick up VC6 for cheap. Managed extensions for C++ aren't my cup of tea. Such a mess. If you do want VC++ .net, see if you can get the 2003 edition. The 2005 edition is...a turn for the worst. </2cents>

May 6th, 2005, 12:52 PM	#8
tribaldog Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	ummm thanks guyz... well i'm interested in just doing straight c++ programs right now.. i understand the .net thing. but i'm still confused about the windows programming... i wanna make some program in windows. And i see a lot of code written just to make a simple window but the thing is if i use Visual Basic then i don't even have to write anything. where else in win32 programming.. i have to write and memorize all those little things which just gets complicated line by line. so what is the thing about writing a good program.. use Vb. vc++ or straight win32 prog.. thanks

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