brokenhope

Last summer about 15 days before the end of it, I bought a book called Sams Teach Yourself C++ In 21 days, Ive been a fan of Sams books ever since I got the actionscript edition, but this one disappointed me a little. I wanted to learn how to program with GUI, I already know most of the basics, if, elseif, else and setting variables, just diffrent syntaxes from what ive learned in other languages. I havent done any C++ in awhile though, more than 2 months, and pretty much forgot everything I learned. Im thinking of starting up again, but instead of making stupid dos programs I want to make graphical programs, they dont have to be the best graphics, but just graphics.

1. What in your opinion is the best and most up to date compiler out there?
2. Any resource sites out there for gui?
3. Can anybody help me with questions I have on AIM?

Before I used Borland, it was out of date, and the header files were a bit out of date to, but it worked, but I lost it after a reformat.

uman

1) MS Visual C++ Toolkit
2) Forger's Win32 tutorial
3) No. (I would, but I don't know GUI programming myself, although I'm trying to learn)

BTW you should make sure you know moderate/advanced C++ before you try this, not just "the basics".

brokenhope

Do you think you can help me out with regular C++ though? because its going to take some time to get used to programming in C++ again, and I do have some questions about variable types, and other things.

Also I did have Visual C++, but when I searched google it came up with Visual C++ 2005, which is supposedly the same thing... but I could never figure out how to compile with it.

bl00dninja

we must crawl before we walw, and walk before we fly. you should be well grounded in OOP and some of the more advanced parts of C++ to do GUI programming. all those cool windows and icons are all objects, and if you're not up on your OOP, it's going to be very difficult. keep it up!

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uman

OK...I don't think I'm the best choice to help you with regular C++, because I'm not really an expert at it. If you need help, ask in the IRC channel ##C++ on irc.freenode.net

brokenhope

Is the MS Visual C++ Toolkit borland? I downloaded it and installed it again, because its 2003 and I have 2005, and now all the example files open with borland and says my trials over... and the only program in MS Visual C++ Toolkit forlder is a dos program, is that what I use to compile or something? im not use to things being this complicated, so im gonna have a lot of questions....

uman

no, it's not Borland. The file type associations are wrong. Yes, that command-line program is the compiler. If you want a GUI IDE, get the gratis version of MS Visual C++ 2005.

Infinite Recursion

you could alwasy use SharpDevelop (for C# or VB) for free.

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uman

SharpDevelop doesn't do C++. Well, it does Managed C++, but if we introduce this poor newbie to THAT he'll be scarred for life. Don't use SharpDevelop. If you must have a free (as in freedom) IDE, use Dev-C++. I recommend the free (as in price) VS-2k5 though.

kirkl_uk

Hey, I did a module at Uni in MFC/C++, so I know a fair bit about windows programming using that. So it depends if you want to learn something like that, or maybe Win32 programming, which is just a level below MFC, or the new .Net way of doing things. I know a good bit about all of these, so get in touch if you want me to try and help.

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