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dmorales · Apr 6th, 2005, 7:43 PM

How hard is c++ compared to php? I know they are for completely different purposes but php is the only thing I really know right now.

I want to eventually learn c# but I think it might be little advanced for me right now. Is c++ good for me to start out on? (Don't know much oop)

The only other programming I've done (besides web) is visual basic, and he last time I did that I was in HIgh School and wasn't too particularly studious and that is a lot easier, but it seemed so limiting and boring.

Arla · Apr 6th, 2005, 8:04 PM

C# I believe is easier than C++, it's got less "problem" areas (or areas that are difficult to understand).

Cerulean · Apr 6th, 2005, 8:11 PM

Well being the Python advocate that I am I would recommend going with it instead of C++ as a first 'real language' - cleaner design, much much faster to learn, very high level.

I wouldn't recommend asking for advice on the topic really. Give it a few days trial run, see what suits you. Others' experiences, skills and requirements are unlikely to reflect your own.

dmorales · Apr 6th, 2005, 9:55 PM

Thanks for the python advice. I never thought to look into it but now that I have, it's pretty Cool!

I am definitley going to be learning this in my spare time. It's really easy to start picking up!

new User(Kevin.Parkinson) · Apr 6th, 2005, 10:47 PM

Morales:
I too, would go with C# over C++. Learning and coding with C++ can be like wading through a dense forest; it is legendary for having extra characters to mess up the syntax( that's no offense to people that love working with C++...I too love C++, but choose not to program with it )...for example in managed C++, to declare a class:

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public _gc MyClass :: BaseClass

..like what the heck is that "_gc" thingy for?

If you are thinking about learning more about OOP, and thinking about C# which is a lot cleaner in it's syntax ( not unlike Java ), I would recommend looking at one of those "Learn C# in 24 Hours" types of books. Or perhaps, since you know some PHP and are familiar with web programming, check into using ASP.NET book - programming with C#, which may allow you to leverage your existing experience.

...PHP, Perl, Python, C#, C++...I am sure you will find the one that suits you the most, as I think it's more about that than which is better than which. I think they are all cool actually.

Infinite Recursion · Apr 6th, 2005, 10:48 PM

C++ is relatively easy. C# is as well.

Berto · Apr 7th, 2005, 3:07 AM

C++ isnt relativly easy as a first language

must i say "pointers".

Benoit · Apr 7th, 2005, 5:31 AM

I think C++ just looks more cryptic compared to C

Infinite Recursion · Apr 7th, 2005, 8:47 AM

Berto, you don't necessarily have to use pointers if you didn't want to. I write C++ code all the time and I avoid pointers for the most part.

duomax51 · Apr 7th, 2005, 10:06 AM

I don't know php but I say that C++ is more advance and easiest language I seen. But that is just my opion.

Apr 6th, 2005, 7:43 PM	#1
dmorales Programmer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 74 Rep Power: 4	How hard is c++? How hard is c++ compared to php? I know they are for completely different purposes but php is the only thing I really know right now. I want to eventually learn c# but I think it might be little advanced for me right now. Is c++ good for me to start out on? (Don't know much oop) The only other programming I've done (besides web) is visual basic, and he last time I did that I was in HIgh School and wasn't too particularly studious and that is a lot easier, but it seemed so limiting and boring.

Apr 6th, 2005, 10:47 PM	#5
new User(Kevin.Parkinson) Programmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	C Sharp Over C++ For Me...For You " " ? Morales: I too, would go with C# over C++. Learning and coding with C++ can be like wading through a dense forest; it is legendary for having extra characters to mess up the syntax( that's no offense to people that love working with C++...I too love C++, but choose not to program with it )...for example in managed C++, to declare a class: (Toggle Plain Text) public _gc MyClass :: BaseClass public _gc MyClass :: BaseClass ..like what the heck is that "_gc" thingy for? If you are thinking about learning more about OOP, and thinking about C# which is a lot cleaner in it's syntax ( not unlike Java ), I would recommend looking at one of those "Learn C# in 24 Hours" types of books. Or perhaps, since you know some PHP and are familiar with web programming, check into using ASP.NET book - programming with C#, which may allow you to leverage your existing experience. ...PHP, Perl, Python, C#, C++...I am sure you will find the one that suits you the most, as I think it's more about that than which is better than which. I think they are all cool actually. __________________ (Toggle Plain Text) public class MySignature extends Post implements JavaSyntax throws NuttinHoney{ MySignature() { Salutation(); Name(); } public string Salutation() { Screen.printLn( "Sincerely,\n" ); } public string Name() { Screen.printLn( "Kevin Parkinson" ); } } public class MySignature extends Post implements JavaSyntax throws NuttinHoney{ MySignature() { Salutation(); Name(); } public string Salutation() { Screen.printLn( "Sincerely,\n" ); } public string Name() { Screen.printLn( "Kevin Parkinson" ); } }

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Infinite Recursion Programming Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3,467 Rep Power: 8	C++ is relatively easy. C# is as well. __________________ http://jasonpowers.net "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."

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Benoit Expert Programmer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 548 Rep Power: 4	I think C++ just looks more cryptic compared to C __________________ Johnny was a chemist's son but Johnny is no more, for what Johnny thought was H2O was H2SO4

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Infinite Recursion Programming Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3,467 Rep Power: 8	Berto, you don't necessarily have to use pointers if you didn't want to. I write C++ code all the time and I avoid pointers for the most part. __________________ http://jasonpowers.net "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."

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Arla Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 143 Rep Power: 4	C# I believe is easier than C++, it's got less "problem" areas (or areas that are difficult to understand).

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Cerulean Professional Programmer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 459 Rep Power: 4	Well being the Python advocate that I am I would recommend going with it instead of C++ as a first 'real language' - cleaner design, much much faster to learn, very high level. I wouldn't recommend asking for advice on the topic really. Give it a few days trial run, see what suits you. Others' experiences, skills and requirements are unlikely to reflect your own.

Apr 6th, 2005, 9:55 PM	#4
dmorales Programmer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 74 Rep Power: 4	Thanks for the python advice. I never thought to look into it but now that I have, it's pretty Cool! I am definitley going to be learning this in my spare time. It's really easy to start picking up!

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Berto Programming Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,022 Rep Power: 5	C++ isnt relativly easy as a first language must i say "pointers".

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duomax51 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	I don't know php I don't know php but I say that C++ is more advance and easiest language I seen. But that is just my opion. __________________ :D :eek: :cool: Joe Thompson

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