Infinite Recursion

Learn them both. On a side note, C++ will be here when most of us are dead and gone, kinda like Cobol and Fortran

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OpenLoop

so true, some of the programs that I work on belong to dead people. I know because some were written back in 1972. I always put RIP next to their name in the mod box

Mad_guy

Personally I have a distaste for Java because I feel it is unnecessarily verbose (see this post for more on that) and rigid. I prefer a language with high amounts of expressiveness, but by my standards, C++ doesn't come close either.


The best solution is to flip a coin, and I'm serious. You can learn plenty of the intricacies and better and worse points after that. Just don't get language deadlocked.
It is particularly sad how many people who are in the industry or really programmers in general do not seek more knowledge, better solutions, and keep asking questions. Rather, they get locked to one language because that is what their job is and that is what it depends on. It would be quite tragic for you to do the same thing.

Anybody can have quirks and language biases, even the best programmers. They may seek work more related to such things. But when it comes to a project, this should never stop you from just getting things done, favorite language or not.

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null_ptr0

C++ was created to be a more OO C, and Java was made for a completely different purpose; to be a programming language used on the web.

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Game_Ender

No, Java was designed to be used on a wide variety of consumer devices and appliances. That is the driving force for all of its features, the JVM (portability), no pointers (reliability), and garbage collection (reliability).

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grumpy

Well, that was the intent.

In practice, like any feature of any programming language or environment (Java includes aspects of both), those features have trade-offs.

Portability via the JVM gives an effect known as "write once, debug everywhere" (as different JVMs work differently), "no pointers" contributes to some loss of expressiveness which makes some things more difficult to code, and "garbage collection" is only a partial solution (it addresses some problems with memory usage but not with other resources such as file handles) that can make a program behave unpredictably at times because of the way the garbage collector works.

The above is not at shot at Java; I can equally describe trade-offs of the counter-part features of C++ (not relying on a JVM, supporting pointers, and garbage collection not being the default).

I agree with others who have said that there is no universal "best". Each language suits some applications better than the other, and each has weaknesses. Despite claims by zealots in either language.

pcbrainbuster

I recommend that you go straight and learn C++. Do take in account that at first it is VERY complicated and you have to be comitted, but over time it almost becomes second nature. You might feel confused at first if there is any point to go passed HTML because of the complexity but don't turn away. You could follow my advice because I was in the same prediciment as you are in now; many people told me to way because of my age(14) and did other things such as to learn Python first, the thing is that I dd actually try but found it so hard that I quit.

You might wonder "Why the hell you I listen to a child?", right? Well the only way I could get you passed this is maybe explain how much I learned and show what level I am at so that you can feel slightly more secure about your choice(if a child can do it then so can I! Is the feeling you should get ). Hmm, currently I am able to create applications like Paint and can even create screensavers... I'm currently am working on a project that makes windows transparent as well as make certain parts of a window invisible or even a colour/color.

So for my ending statement I guess I'm gonna say go with C++(in general I believe it has much more power then Java)...

NOTE to all: Please, do not give me any flak for this post.

Narue

>and you have to be comitted
On the plus side, the Jell-O is fantastic!

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pcbrainbuster

I'm confused... But I like Jell-O to :p

Jessehk

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