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Ghost · Nov 18th, 2007, 1:36 PM

Info for the control can be found here. But that isn't the point of this thread.

I was wondering how many people us it, vs making your own login system. To me it seems making your own would allow for a lot more control, yet I've never used the login control enough to know what it can do.

xavier · Nov 18th, 2007, 10:52 PM

I have used the Membership system in ASP.NET on several occasions and i can say that is very customizable.

First you can create a custom provider just by specifying in the web.config file things like : what database to use, if the email should be unique, what length the password , if you want sliding expiration or not ... etc.

Then if you want even more control, you can derive from the MembershipProvider class and override methods like ValidateUser ..

I think I have at work some good links for this but I doubt it's something google couldn't answer .

As for needing a custom control , I guess that's always an option depending on the requirements.

PS: for installing the membership tables, there is a command line tool that can do that but on cool class it took me a while to find out about is :

 csharp Syntax (Toggle Plain Text) 
System.Web.Management.SqlServices.Install("server", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", "databasename", SqlFeatures.All).
System.Web.Management.SqlServices.Install("server", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", "databasename", SqlFeatures.All).

Ghost · Nov 19th, 2007, 2:11 AM

Xavier, awesome post. Very helpful, i might just make a demo db and play with it now. I didnt know it had all that.

Any other tips or tricks you know of?

xavier · Nov 19th, 2007, 3:32 AM

And I was only talking about the Membership feature but you can have Roles and Profile for users.

Roles is quite a nice feature , it allows you to have something like this:

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<asp:LoginView runat="server" ID="mainLoginView" OnPreRender="mainLoginView_PreRender">
                                    <AnonymousTemplate>
something for anonymous users
                                    </AnonymousTemplate>
                                    <RoleGroups>
                                        <asp:RoleGroup Roles="Administrator">
                                            <ContentTemplate>
.. something for administrators
                                            </ContentTemplate>
                                        </asp:RoleGroup>
                                        <asp:RoleGroup Roles="Operator">
                                            <ContentTemplate>
... something for the operators
                                             </ContentTemplate>
                                        </asp:RoleGroup>

But it will come a point in time when you want to customize the create user control. Now that's ok, not that hard . But

when you want to get the value of another control (let's say you put a dropdownlist) you have to do this :

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 CreateUserWizardStep cUserStep = (CreateUserWizardStep)CreateUserWizard1.WizardSteps[0];
            DropDownList ddlToBind = (DropDownList)cUserStep.ContentTemplateContainer.FindControl("RolesListDdl");
 CreateUserWizardStep cUserStep = (CreateUserWizardStep)CreateUserWizard1.WizardSteps[0];
            DropDownList ddlToBind = (DropDownList)cUserStep.ContentTemplateContainer.FindControl("RolesListDdl");

And let's just say it wasn't the first thing that came to my mind.

Ghost · Nov 29th, 2007, 6:52 AM

Xavier, I'm having a little issue creating a custom Provider, basically getting the ASP.NET Web Site Administration Tool to read and be able to connect to a remote MS SQL Database. I have been having trouble locating any site that guides me or provides me with the missing information to complete this task.

If you know of any resourses that'd be great, I'd like to start using and learning how to use this old yet amazing part of the framework. Thank you.

xavier · Nov 29th, 2007, 12:17 PM

How's your web.config looking like ?

Nov 18th, 2007, 1:36 PM	#1
Ghost Man Bear Pig Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NorCal, USA Posts: 289 Rep Power: 3	ASP.Net Login Control Info for the control can be found here. But that isn't the point of this thread. I was wondering how many people us it, vs making your own login system. To me it seems making your own would allow for a lot more control, yet I've never used the login control enough to know what it can do.

Nov 18th, 2007, 10:52 PM	#2
xavier Professional Programmer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: .ro Posts: 367 Rep Power: 4	Re: ASP.Net Login Control I have used the Membership system in ASP.NET on several occasions and i can say that is very customizable. First you can create a custom provider just by specifying in the web.config file things like : what database to use, if the email should be unique, what length the password , if you want sliding expiration or not ... etc. Then if you want even more control, you can derive from the MembershipProvider class and override methods like ValidateUser .. I think I have at work some good links for this but I doubt it's something google couldn't answer . As for needing a custom control , I guess that's always an option depending on the requirements. PS: for installing the membership tables, there is a command line tool that can do that but on cool class it took me a while to find out about is : csharp Syntax (Toggle Plain Text) System.Web.Management.SqlServices.Install("server", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", "databasename", SqlFeatures.All). System.Web.Management.SqlServices.Install("server", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", "databasename", SqlFeatures.All). __________________ Don't take life too seriously, it's not permanent !

Nov 19th, 2007, 2:11 AM	#3
Ghost Man Bear Pig Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NorCal, USA Posts: 289 Rep Power: 3	Re: ASP.Net Login Control Xavier, awesome post. Very helpful, i might just make a demo db and play with it now. I didnt know it had all that. Any other tips or tricks you know of?

Nov 19th, 2007, 3:32 AM	#4
xavier Professional Programmer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: .ro Posts: 367 Rep Power: 4	Re: ASP.Net Login Control And I was only talking about the Membership feature but you can have Roles and Profile for users. Roles is quite a nice feature , it allows you to have something like this: (Toggle Plain Text) <asp:LoginView runat="server" ID="mainLoginView" OnPreRender="mainLoginView_PreRender"> <AnonymousTemplate> something for anonymous users </AnonymousTemplate> <RoleGroups> <asp:RoleGroup Roles="Administrator"> <ContentTemplate> .. something for administrators </ContentTemplate> </asp:RoleGroup> <asp:RoleGroup Roles="Operator"> <ContentTemplate> ... something for the operators </ContentTemplate> </asp:RoleGroup> <asp:LoginView runat="server" ID="mainLoginView" OnPreRender="mainLoginView_PreRender"> <AnonymousTemplate> something for anonymous users </AnonymousTemplate> <RoleGroups> <asp:RoleGroup Roles="Administrator"> <ContentTemplate> .. something for administrators </ContentTemplate> </asp:RoleGroup> <asp:RoleGroup Roles="Operator"> <ContentTemplate> ... something for the operators </ContentTemplate> </asp:RoleGroup> But it will come a point in time when you want to customize the create user control. Now that's ok, not that hard . But when you want to get the value of another control (let's say you put a dropdownlist) you have to do this : csharp Syntax (Toggle Plain Text) CreateUserWizardStep cUserStep = (CreateUserWizardStep)CreateUserWizard1.WizardSteps[0]; DropDownList ddlToBind = (DropDownList)cUserStep.ContentTemplateContainer.FindControl("RolesListDdl"); CreateUserWizardStep cUserStep = (CreateUserWizardStep)CreateUserWizard1.WizardSteps[0]; DropDownList ddlToBind = (DropDownList)cUserStep.ContentTemplateContainer.FindControl("RolesListDdl"); And let's just say it wasn't the first thing that came to my mind. __________________ Don't take life too seriously, it's not permanent !

Nov 29th, 2007, 6:52 AM	#5
Ghost Man Bear Pig Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NorCal, USA Posts: 289 Rep Power: 3	Re: ASP.Net Login Control Xavier, I'm having a little issue creating a custom Provider, basically getting the ASP.NET Web Site Administration Tool to read and be able to connect to a remote MS SQL Database. I have been having trouble locating any site that guides me or provides me with the missing information to complete this task. If you know of any resourses that'd be great, I'd like to start using and learning how to use this old yet amazing part of the framework. Thank you.

Nov 29th, 2007, 12:17 PM	#6
xavier Professional Programmer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: .ro Posts: 367 Rep Power: 4	Re: ASP.Net Login Control How's your web.config looking like ? __________________ Don't take life too seriously, it's not permanent !

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