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Old Sep 6th, 2007, 6:40 AM   #21
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Actually, hoss, I'm less lazy than most. I grew up on a farm shovelling shit and plowing fields, and not on a tractor either. I'm talking walking behind a horse and plow 12 hours a day. Call me what you will, but I'm not lazy. I did pretty damn good in school too. But nobody ever talked to me, and if they did, they did it with disdain and contempt. But you can try to put me in a pigeonhole if you like.
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Old Sep 6th, 2007, 5:13 PM   #22
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I personnaly think that i lack social skills.
I am really shy when im around new people, and i usually have a lot of difficulties starting a conversation, and thats pretty much one of the main reasons ive turned to computers, and computer programming.

I have a few friends, but the computer and the internet is pretty much the thing i hang out the most with.
I practically spend 5 to 6 hours a day on the computer when i have school, and like, 8 to 12 hours a day on weekends or vacations.

However, i dont think the OP has the right to be criticizing programmers because they dont necessarely act, or live the way he/she does.

Making a program is far from being an easy task, and it takes a great deal of intelligence, knowledge, and perseverence to finish a program.
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Old Sep 6th, 2007, 5:22 PM   #23
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Jabo, I just re-read your post. Dumbest thing I ever read. You wasn't an athlete because you wasn't socially acceptable. Thats the biggest pile of bullshit , and I've seen lots. I've been overweight kid all my life, but in 4th grade I decided I wasn't gonna let my size affect my life. I played football all the time, and baseball to, cause I was good at it. I started every year I played.Then in 4th when I decided to play basketball I know it would take a lot of work on my part, cause there was constant running. But I stuck with it, every year I played and by my second year I started. Then I dislocated my knee cap in baseball, and couldn't play anymore.

You using an excuse as to why you dont play sports because your play video games is crazy. You don't play sports because you don't want to or you are lazy. Simple as that, I know alot of computer geeks that are athletic. It seems to me that computers and video games have more control over your life, then you do. When it gets to that point you need help.
I don't think what he said was bullshit at all. Plus I don't believe that your post has any relevance to Jabos initial post. Being an overweight kid, is completely different to being socially accepted. The kids at my school that were not socially accepted were never picked to join in atheletic activities. And even if they did, they probably would've been given hell from many of the other kids if they did.

Having moved a lot as a kid, i found it hard to get accepted in school and as a result had difficulties getting involved in sporting activities, and even when I did get to play football, I rarely got the ball passed to me, despite me being quite a good player.
A guy in my school did a two footed challenge on some kid that was a social outcast and snapped his leg like a piece of lumber. The kid weren't actually that bad at football as it went either but nobody gave him the chance.

Being quite an extrovert however, i got accepted eventually. I always find that knocking out the hardest guy in your year is usually the best way to make friends with everyone .
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Old Sep 6th, 2007, 5:36 PM   #24
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I just bring the bat and ball. Works ever' dam' time.
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Old Sep 6th, 2007, 6:33 PM   #25
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I personnaly think that i lack social skills.
I am really shy when im around new people, and i usually have a lot of difficulties starting a conversation, and thats pretty much one of the main reasons ive turned to computers, and computer programming.
I'm quite shy too, in the sene that I'm generally uncomfortable talking to new people. However, in the real world, dealing with people is something you've got to do at one time or another, and it's a good idea to learn how. It's just one of those things that you've got to grit your teeth and do, and trust me, it gets a lot easier. When I was in high school, I used to dread any assignments where I had to present something in front of the class, but in college, that was a requirement in nearly every course I took. I still get nervous doing it, but after enough people told me I spoke well and didn't seem nervous, I felt a lot better.
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I have a few friends, but the computer and the internet is pretty much the thing i hang out the most with.
I wouldn't call it 'hanging out', but yeah, I spend a fair bit of time on the computer as well.
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I practically spend 5 to 6 hours a day on the computer when i have school, and like, 8 to 12 hours a day on weekends or vacations.
The biggest problem with that- besides the obvious atrophy of one's social skills- is that it doesn't leave you much time to do much else. Physical activity, for example, is a key component of good health, and a healthy body helps the mind stay sharp. Also, simply getting out into the world and experiencing life is beneficial in so many ways. You'd be surprised how many day to day things can provide inspiration for solving problems. If you have (or develop) the ability to think in abstract terms, you will see how solutions to non-computer problems can often be applied to computers in unexpected ways. Dijkstra, for example, didn't even own a computer until later in life, and many of his algorithms were inspired by real-world processes.
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However, i dont think the OP has the right to be criticizing programmers because they dont necessarely act, or live the way he/she does.
I don't think that's the case. The OP was simply asking if others have encountered these issues in dealing with 'nerdy' people, not putting down those people.
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Old Sep 6th, 2007, 9:39 PM   #26
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I understand what your saying Seif. Sorry if I upset you Jabo, no hard feelings. In regards to the OPs idea of programmers or IT people. Don't judge them just because must people stereotype computer people as nerds or kind of funny acting. All them nerds that everyone made fun in school hey grow up and prosper, and you just might find yourself working for a nerd one day. Won't be such a nerd then will they? But like I said in another of my posts they might just lack the people or communication skills. You got to give them a chance instead of letting the common stereotype computer nerd cloud your view of your co-workers.
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Old Sep 7th, 2007, 12:13 PM   #27
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My intention of this thread was just to start an open discussion. I did not mean to put down or offend anyone here. I don't think I ever said that it was necessarily "bad" nor am I saying that I am some type of social god or cocky arrogant prick in which Dawei implied saying that I think I am the "center of the universe." However he got that from my posting is beyond me. All I wanted to discuss was if anyone had expierenced these communication problems at work or at school and the root of these problems.
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Old Sep 7th, 2007, 12:19 PM   #28
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It's pretty cocky to presume that my "center of the universe" post was directed specifically at you. Guess I'm gonna have to lump you into that quite common class, now, though.
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Old Sep 7th, 2007, 1:09 PM   #29
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...All I wanted to discuss was if anyone had expierenced these communication problems at work or at school and the root of these problems.
Everyone runs into communication problems at one point or another. How it's resolved is up to the individual. You can choose to walk away, labeling them whatever label you come up with, or you can bridge the gap, give them a chance, and see just where he's coming from. This topic reminds me way too much of high school.
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Old Sep 7th, 2007, 2:39 PM   #30
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Stick here and talk as much as you can. This way you make yourself comfortable with other people and contribute to the forum.
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