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The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. 2 the 1 quick 1 brown 1 fox 1 jumps 1 over 1 the 1 lazy 1 dog If I were to attempt this 'job', I'd be drawing up a detailed list of requirements, and I'd then get the client to sign off on it before doing any of the actual coding. Even then, if doing this requirements analysis is too involved, you need to ask yourself if it's worth your time; after all, the client may opt for another programmer, and you might have something more productive to do.
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I get your point DaWei, but I think you know what he was getting at; you should know what sarcasm is at your age. You could spend a half hour setting out requirements for the project with the poster and code it in a short amount of time (and if there was huge scope creep because the poster was not clear, don't do it). All he was saying is you could make a decent amount of cash for the time out into it on a small trivial project like this.
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And what I'm saying is that people will tend to value you, in some respects, according to how you value yourself. For those who are not yet professionals, are not yet unduly concerned with self-support, taking on a job at no charge at all is quite alright. The experience can always pay off. Nevertheless, when you become a professional, you will be doing yourself a disservice to sell yourself short.
I have given advice in this very forum that it can be a good thing to work more cheaply than your competition. If you do good work, then you are a higher valued property. More bang for the buck. You can always go too far. If you don't think you're worth the bucks, people will agree with you. Maybe they'll use you for their unimportant schlock, but they'll give the good stuff to someone else.
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Been here done this. I know what Dawei is saying. But I get Eric's sarcasm. I see both sides of the argument, but, as usual, Dawei is right. Be very careful when it comes to requirements. you'll probably learn the 'hard' way anyways. Sure you will do it for cheap, maybe you can do it fast, but your still underselling yourself, and unless you are really after that little 5 star rating, don't do it for cheap, don't think it's easy.
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Booooze, you're completely missing point. It really isn't about who is right (or isn’t) right. The 5 dollars which I wrote was an exaggeration of how easy the project looked in comparison to the other projects on the website. If I wanted to get some experience on learning a particular aspect of programming I would definitely go to that website to see what jobs were offered. If I can learn something beneficial for my future career path and make money at the same time… I definitely think that my time is well spent. What can there possibly be to argue with how I value my own time?
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meh, you get what you pay for on that site. I've looked at doing a couple of projects there, but the price gets cut down so much by kids who know a little bit of php and htm that it doesnt become worth while in the end. Most of the projects posted are by people who want a clone of youtube or myspace, or something so redundant you know its going to be a waste of time.
If I wanted to get some experience on learning a particular aspect of programming I would definitely go to that website to see what jobs were offered. Thats an exaxt issue with the site. Unfortunately, the clients don't want people who wants to learn while working on the project. But thats what you get most of the time. |
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well i liked it, i got enough money to build a brand new computer and watercooling system in 4 days work....
i just thought this was a good resource for all you coders, i mean the projects are so easy dawei could prolly do them on his coffee break or somethin; i dont know why i got -rep for spamming, lol..... |
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