PhilBon

So you guys are saying take math classes like Calc and trig and alg. I want to know why? Mainly because I don't like math and very boring. Now the problem solving in math I see the reason for that, but having to know all the damn equations, I don't.

kruptof

Even I who fears the scientific calculator knows that maths and programming and now properly security are coming together like a horse and carriage.

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ReggaetonKing

Well, I just received an email from one of the professors and he told me C++ is the language they use for their Computer Science classes. I am kind of happy to know this because always wanted a real reason to learn C++.

And thanks for the replies guys!

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bl00dninja

for most purposes, "knowing the equation" is a VERY high-school way of doing math. read into my previous line as "for retards only".

YES! the problem solving IS the point. if you KNOW how to solve the problem...fuck the goddamn equation, you should be able to come up with it yourself. yeah, there's some memorization, stuff everyone should know...but don't let that thought process give yourself an excuse to say "math is gay" or some equivalent expression.

even if you never have to use it, wouldn't it at least be helpful to be exposed to it in high school rather than in college? you're going to HAVE to take it. as far as algebra being insignificant...christ, don't get me started.

you don't have to LOVE math, but you're going to have to deal with it...period.

if you discount it's value as a whole, then you're just a straight-up ass.

p.s. this was not intended to be insulting to the poster of the above quote, but merely my thoughts within the relevant context of the discussion. i'm sure the guy i quoted was not taking the extremist view i used as an example.

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Indigno

My dad says don't room with anyone majoring in business or art .

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MicDareall

About the math. First off, I find the whole way of thinking in programming is similar to that of mathematics. And beyond the fact that algebra is prominent in all programming, the problem solving techniques taught in upper level mathematics can be used in a wide variety of situations, and without that knowledge you will seriously be limiting the field you can go into.

DaWei

I didn't know there was one way to "think in programming." I find that thinking in ASM, C/C++, Python, and Haskell are all different. That said, tossing mathematics is about the same as chopping off your arms: you might look heroic, but your functionality and utility go down considerably.

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MicDareall

lol. Like I said, " I find" it similar, meaning my opinion, who are you to try and correct someones opinion? This is not something you can back by research and facts, so why would you even attempt to correct me? To me no matter what language I use, if its python and I go through a list with syntax thats similar to the 'human thought process' or use assembly with jump statements, theres a similarity in the overall problem solving aspect to that of mathematics. I.E. taking large problems and breaking them down into smaller more manageable problems and solving them using the mental tools you possess.

DaWei

Me, sonny boy. Just as you're entitled to hold your opinion, I'm entitled to derogate it. Sure, everyone is entitled to hold an opinion. That doesn't make the opinion correct. There are those who still hold that the earth is flat. They're certainly entitled to do so. Decomposing a problem into subproblems isn't "programming thinking", it's solution thinking. When that's done, you slip into the appropriate programming paradigm and implement it. Those paradigms are not equivalent.

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MicDareall

(quoted the whole reply just for you.)

lol.