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Intel17 · Jun 8th, 2006, 3:45 PM

Hello, I was reading through your Rules and number three I think seams wrong.

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Originally Posted by Rules

3 Hacking - Do not discuss hacking on Programming Forums. This includes, but is not limited to discussion making/using hacks for video games, writing/using brute-force to gain passwords, or gaining unauthorized access to a machine. Security can be discussed, but from a constructive standpoint. Whether or not your posts involving security discussion are constructive or not are based on the staff's discretion, and if the staff deems that your post is not from a constructive point of view then appropriate action will be taken. This rule will be inforced on a case by case basis.

Under googles define:computer hackers

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Originally Posted by google/wikipedia

Hacker is a term used to describe different types of computer experts. The media and the general populace typically use the term to mean "computer criminal"; however, in many computer subcultures it simply means "clever programmer", with no connotation of computer security skill. It is also sometimes extended to mean any kind of expert, especially one who has particularly detailed knowledge or cleverly circumvents limits.

I don't mean anything by this, but I just dont like the misuse of the Term "Hacker", I feel you should use the tern "cracker" but this is just me.

you see I would esaly call myself a Hacker unde the terms of "An enthusiastic computer programmer or user" which is the orginal meaning of the word Hacker. A Hacker is someone who enjoys lerning and exploring computer systems and networks.

Thank you for reading.
Intel17

big_k105 · Jun 8th, 2006, 4:00 PM

Well I know what the term hacker means, but we are not using hacker we are using hacking. which according to google means

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Unauthorized use, or attempts to circumvent or bypass the security mechanisms of an information system or network.

it also means according to google

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Practice of raising animals in captivity, acclimating them to natural conditions and then releasing them into the wild (referred to in regard to bald eagles).

Remember that there are multiple meanings to alot of words. I don't know if you know but Geek originally ment a person in the sideshow act at a carnival who did disgusting things normally bite the heads off of chickens.

I am willing to change the rule to Hacking/Cracking just to make sure everyone knows what I mean. But actually breaking into others computers is normally referred to as Hacking so that is why it was used over Cracking

DaWei · Jun 8th, 2006, 4:01 PM

You're correct that it's not used entirely correctly. Neither is a hacker what YOU define it as (an enthusiastic blah blah). It's obvious you can tell what the rule is referring to. Don't be a sea-lawyer, just follow it.

Intel17 · Jun 8th, 2006, 4:05 PM

OK nah dont worry about it, you make a good point

Thank you

Jun 8th, 2006, 4:01 PM	#3
DaWei Resident Grouch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,453 Rep Power: 10	You're correct that it's not used entirely correctly. Neither is a hacker what YOU define it as (an enthusiastic blah blah). It's obvious you can tell what the rule is referring to. Don't be a sea-lawyer, just follow it. __________________ Abstraction doesn't make it impossible to write bad code; it makes it possible to write superior code. Contributor's Corner: Grumpy on C++ Exceptions DaWei on Pointers

Jun 8th, 2006, 4:05 PM	#4
Intel17 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales - matrix Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	OK nah dont worry about it, you make a good point Thank you __________________ Free your mind use Gaim! Add a Comment to My Site

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