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Toro · May 29th, 2006, 9:24 AM

Hey, thanks for that solution. I will be sure to check it out.

Arevos · May 29th, 2006, 11:06 AM

What does your server support? How much would you be willing to pay for a server? Or are you using your home computer as a server?

Toro · May 29th, 2006, 11:41 AM

I would want a server that supports JSP, Perl, PHP, and ASP. I glanced around the web and found a few of them cheap. Now, setting up my own server at home. What benefits does this have?

Arevos · May 29th, 2006, 2:43 PM

Well, if you set it up at home, it generally has much less bandwidth, but you get more diskspace, and more control over what you install on it.

a thing · May 29th, 2006, 3:43 PM

And if your ISP doesn't charge you by how much you upload, it's just included in the price of your regular connection. It should take a lot more bandwidth than other things, like BitTorrent.

Also you can use virtual hosts since you have control over the config files.

My tutorial

Toro · May 29th, 2006, 9:20 PM

Thanks both for your suggestions and advice. Well appreciated

Booooze · May 29th, 2006, 9:41 PM

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Originally Posted by free-zombie

like OsCommerce ?]
Use what you're comfortable with. If you know Java, you might want to go with JSP or Trails (Java on Rails). Of you don't know anything, go for php, it's nice. OsCommerce is written in PHP - poking around in it should be educational.... (I've worked with it..,. abstraction layers everywhere which I, under time pressure, cunningly avoided

)

Nice. Yeah Toro, when working with PHP or any web development, I would strongly advise looking online to see what you can find before you start creating your own.Whether you use an open source, whether you buy it, or create it your self, each solution has its pros and cons. I once was going to write a couple programs, strictly for myself to use, but decided I would look online for them first. Amazingly, I found free solutions to it. Saved me a ton of time. Just a suggestion

P.S - If you are looking for a shopping cart, there are TONS out there, some better than others

a thing · May 29th, 2006, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by a thing

It should NOT take a lot of bandwidth, a lot less than other things, like BitTorrent.

Whoops! That's what it should be.

kurifu · Jul 6th, 2006, 3:01 PM

JSP is faster than perl? Never really thought anything could be faster than java apps, perhaps... but at least Perl won't eat your server...

I find JSP sites to actually be slow as compared to most server side alternatives, and most java vms tend to bear a heavy footprint on your memory.

MY work uses JSP and the system crashes anytime it hits even a moderate load of traffic, not very much fun. If you want fast though, look into PHP... I have found great results with PHP, even ASP/ASPX is pretty good.

Arevos · Jul 6th, 2006, 3:50 PM

Hm. I thought this thread was already dead and buried

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurifu

I find JSP sites to actually be slow as compared to most server side alternatives, and most java vms tend to bear a heavy footprint on your memory.

MY work uses JSP and the system crashes anytime it hits even a moderate load of traffic, not very much fun.

That points to bad programming, rather than a problem with Java itself. JSP is looking increasingly dated these days, but because it uses compiled bytecode, and because the standard Sun JVM is highly optimised, Java's about the fastest you can get from a language that doesn't compile to native machine code.

Unfortunately, it's also pretty easy to screw up Java so that it runs like a dog. Java's complexity is often it's downfall.

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Originally Posted by kurifu

If you want fast though, look into PHP... I have found great results with PHP, even ASP/ASPX is pretty good.

PHP is fairly quick, especially conbined with mod_php in Apache, but it's an interpreted language, and even with a cached AST it doesn't outperform Java in terms of CPU cycles. Take a look at the computer language shootout comparison between PHP and Java.

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May 29th, 2006, 9:24 AM	#11
Toro Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 136 Rep Power: 0	Hey, thanks for that solution. I will be sure to check it out.

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Toro Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 136 Rep Power: 0	I would want a server that supports JSP, Perl, PHP, and ASP. I glanced around the web and found a few of them cheap. Now, setting up my own server at home. What benefits does this have?

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