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nnxion Mar 29th, 2006 9:03 AM

my new site www.rubenisme.com
 
What do you think of it (link)?

I think it's still very bad, but my webdesign skills suck, I have tried so many times, I just don't have that talent. So at least I tried my best and this is what came out.

Infinite Recursion Mar 29th, 2006 9:08 AM

It looks pretty good man... the layout is the same I am using for my new site... but the footer is a little shorter in height and the spacing and borders is a bit different.

Maybe you can try to throw in a few more colors and a different font... to make it a bit more "visually appealing". You may also get hammered for using a table instead of DIV. I used a table in my current site, but switching to CSS div in the new one.

java_roshan Mar 29th, 2006 9:11 AM

its simple and straight. You might think of applying some CSS to it and may be some simple graphics for the navigational menu. Possibly, design a good banner of 468 x 60 or some other dimension.

I think, it isn't bad, but appears incomplete :)
Just my thought!

nnxion Mar 29th, 2006 9:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infinite Recursion
It looks pretty good man... the layout is the same I am using for my new site... but the footer is a little shorter in height and the spacing and borders is a bit different.

Maybe you can try to throw in a few more colors and a different font... to make it a bit more "visually appealing". You may also get hammered for using a table instead of DIV. I used a table in my current site, but switching to CSS div in the new one.

Thanks, yeah colors would be nice if only I could choose the right ones..
I like the Joomla site, I also want to post some source code in my log so maybe I should put wordpress or something on my site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by java_roshan
its simple and straight. You might think of applying some CSS to it and may be some simple graphics for the navigational menu. Possibly, design a good banner of 468 x 60 or some other dimension.

I think, it isn't bad, but appears incomplete :)
Just my thought!

Thank you, yes a banner would be nice, I have a friend that can make those, I'll ask him soon. :)

DaWei Mar 29th, 2006 10:10 AM

Ruben, material to be read should exhibit contrast. You don't have quite enough. Personal opinion, of course. The use of tables for layout is not a sin; it's a flag of amateurism or lack of skill (like not testing functions for success or not indenting code), which you admit to, anyway. As with anything else, improvement comes only from study and practice. I'd guess the majority of us don't have an inborn talent for slick presentation; I know I don't.

zorin Mar 29th, 2006 10:16 AM

First off nnixon nice website. You could think of adding some graphics in the background or somthing, websites that have text over a graphic look more eye-catching. The text could be done with changing it a little bit, maybe changing the title so it looks professional and stands out to the reader.

The word press idea is good, ive seen websites with it and they look much better. Just my thoughts.

java_roshan Mar 29th, 2006 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWei
The use of tables for layout is not a sin; it's a flag of amateurism or lack of skill (like not testing functions for success or not indenting code),

Use of tables is not liked or treated as non-professional anymore?

Isn't it true that most websites shifted from frames to tables over a number of years for page layouts?

If the trend and professional attributes are different, could you please tell me more about that?

MrMan9879 Mar 29th, 2006 11:12 AM

I'm pretty sure they don't mean that they want frames over tables. They just think that tables are insignificent compared to DIVs. I actually don't know why either though... could someone explain to me why tables are such a bad thing?

DaWei Mar 29th, 2006 1:16 PM

Tables are for tabular material (surprise, surprise!). Layout should be done using CSS. If you ever saw the HTML for an old site where things were tightly controlled using tables and spacers, you'd brown your pants. In those days there was no real alternative. CSS changes all that; one should move forward with technology. Admittedly, there's a lot to keep up with -- one has to priortize. However, if I can't keep substantially up, I won't accept the job. A client has the right to the best he can get for the bucks spent.


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