?Best assembler to start with
 

What assembler I should start with?
TASM || MASM32 ?
I worked a little with TASM, but I see that many bigger projects use MASM32.

I don't want to learn 32 bit assembly and make .exes without experience in good ol' .com . 32-bit assembly is much more complicated... has include files...
... requires some knowledge of 16-bit assembly.

... and one question: Can I make 16-bit assembly programs with MASM?

If you really want to write 16 Bits .com, you should give a try to A86.

Nevertheless, your opinion about what is "more complicated" is, exactely, the reverse of the real facts (Win32 Asm is _WAY_ easier than Dos Programming). You should really try NASM, FASM or RosAsm (TASM is dead since ages, and MASM is the worst possible choice).

Betov.

< http://rosasm.org >

NASM from sourceforge. Free and opensource, and has an online community.

NASM seconded. It's the best.

As usual, I recommend MASM32. There is a huge user base along with a plethora of examples.

i personally like AT&T assembler more..

EDIT: w00t, 250 posts :)

lostcauz,
just one question... i saw that MASM32 has IF, While and those things... Is MASM32 HLA?

MASM and HLA are not the same. The constructs you mention are in MASM for easing the transition from a hll to asm. You may use them or ignore them.

If you are unsure about which assembler to try why not download a few and try them for a short time and see which one seems more fitting? MASM, FASM and NASM might be a good start. I'm not familiar with Betov's product.

And don't forget AS :), it's included with GCC.

Okay, I'll try them...
I currently have TASM 5. It's very old, but i like it. It's maybe most easy assembler.
MASM32 attracts me becouse it is most powerfull and has big community.
Look at this : http://www.hostileencounter.com/
Whole RTS written in MASM.