PHP Frameworks
 

With the release of CakePHP 1.20 drawing closer every day I wonder if anyone else uses this great framework or any other frameworks (perhaps a custom framework based off smarty?)?

What do you all think of frameworks (specifically CakePHP)

The more projects I use CakePHP in the easier development gets through the reuse of models and controllers, so far the only thing I have a problem with is the fact the framework itself isn't made by me.

Re: PHP Frameworks
 

I love this. When the MS Framework first came out, I remember all my PHP friends giving me crap about it, and this sadly is the first time I've heard of a PHP Framework... Looks like it was a good idea all those years ago.

It'd be nice to see what people who know about this talk about here. Good thread.

Re: PHP Frameworks
 

What about Code Igniter? Arevos used it to start the PFO forum project long ago...

Re: PHP Frameworks
 

There are ton of these PHP Frameworks out there, Zend has ever produced one. I think they are a good idea for larger projects, and could help speed up development. But that only happens if you are willing to spend the time learning how the framework works and using it properly. I personally have looked at quite a few, and have decided they just weren't worth my time to learn. But I think the main reason was more the fact that all my php projects are fairly small and wouldn't have a need for the overhead large frameworks.

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I'm starting a major project in PHP soon and was looking in to this very topic.

I also first thought to use Code Igniter, just because Arevos had picked it for the forum project. The View system seemed too limited, and there was a lot of ugliness/bad practice in some of the examples which didn't bode well for the framework itself.

I'm probably going to use Symfony (http://www.symfony-project.com/).

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CakePHP is a good framework. We studied it a lot one year ago while we were choosing a framework for our Helpdesk application. We find it a good framework. But we opt Zend Framework which is also a good framework and is supported by Zend itself.

Sanjay Aggarwal

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I would suggest that a help-desk application would be better served by learning how to communicate clearly, in a cultural sense, with those seeking support. The bean-counting adjuncts, such as underlying frameworks, are far less important. I'm probably only saying this because of the crappy service I receive.

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I've used CakePHP, though still not an expert with it by any means. I am somewhat divided about it and believe it can be a really good tool, but only in specific situations. There is a significant time commitment when first using it, as I imagine most frameworks require, however once you are familiar with it, you can generate a new basic site very quickly. One of my main reasons for using Cake was a way to get practice with a similar model to Rails using a language I know. I don't think the mvc model is good for everything, just like cake only fits specific roles, but it does help expand your options.