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Exodust · Mar 24th, 2006, 10:27 AM

Hi I'm new to this forum. The other day I got this idea for a program. Here it is :

All the instant messengers, be it yahoo, msn, gtalk etc. have one shortcomming; the user of a yahoo messenger can't send an im to an msn user; unlike emails which can be sent from any server to any other without any problem. So I thought why not make a utility which when installed will allow any user to send an im to any other user who may or may not have the same messenger. I wanted to find relavent information from the web and I stumbled upon here. I know only C/C++ with some win32 api as well. Can anyone tell me where can I find some useful stuff?

Indigno · Mar 24th, 2006, 10:51 AM

look about a thread above. PFO is developing Element Instant messenger (if it every gets done)

InfoGeek · Mar 24th, 2006, 11:03 AM

Don't remember where I read it, but such a thing is already underway. It's a difficult project as some protocols may be entirely different.

MBirchmeier · Mar 24th, 2006, 12:49 PM

Why can't I use my e-mail to send someone snail-mail?

They're completely seperate systems.

Yahoo servers use one set of servers and protocols while AOL uses another. You need an aol account to interact with aol servers and a yahoo account to interact with yahoo ones. The servers won't provide the information unless you have an account. There are tools out there that allow you to access them all in one place (see trillian) but you still need seperate credentials for each.

Unless you can talk aol and yahoo to provide cross-protocol support you won't have 'one account' that can do everything.

-MBirchmeier

Arevos · Mar 24th, 2006, 3:56 PM

Trillian, GAIM, Kopete and Miranda spring to mind.

Exodust · Mar 24th, 2006, 10:13 PM

Oh! I hadn't thought about that. Well so I need an account for yahoo to connect to the yahoo server to send an im to a yahoo user. But isn't there a way to bypass the server and connect directly to the other user?

InfoGeek · Mar 25th, 2006, 5:28 AM

No. Two clients using different protocols can talk only if there is some sort of conversion in between. Like Yahoo!'s server understanding special requests from IRC servers to pass a message to a particular user and then converting it into some form that the Yahoo! messenger is able to understand.

Mar 24th, 2006, 10:27 AM	#1
Exodust Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India, The great :p Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	A union of messengers. Hi I'm new to this forum. The other day I got this idea for a program. Here it is : All the instant messengers, be it yahoo, msn, gtalk etc. have one shortcomming; the user of a yahoo messenger can't send an im to an msn user; unlike emails which can be sent from any server to any other without any problem. So I thought why not make a utility which when installed will allow any user to send an im to any other user who may or may not have the same messenger. I wanted to find relavent information from the web and I stumbled upon here. I know only C/C++ with some win32 api as well. Can anyone tell me where can I find some useful stuff?

Mar 24th, 2006, 11:03 AM	#3
InfoGeek Professional Programmer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: India, The great. Posts: 435 Rep Power: 4	Don't remember where I read it, but such a thing is already underway. It's a difficult project as some protocols may be entirely different. __________________ PFO - My daily dose of technology.

Mar 25th, 2006, 5:28 AM	#7
InfoGeek Professional Programmer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: India, The great. Posts: 435 Rep Power: 4	No. Two clients using different protocols can talk only if there is some sort of conversion in between. Like Yahoo!'s server understanding special requests from IRC servers to pass a message to a particular user and then converting it into some form that the Yahoo! messenger is able to understand. __________________ PFO - My daily dose of technology.

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Mar 24th, 2006, 10:51 AM	#2
Indigno Professional Programmer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Anywhere non-productive Posts: 267 Rep Power: 0	look about a thread above. PFO is developing Element Instant messenger (if it every gets done)

Mar 24th, 2006, 12:49 PM	#4
MBirchmeier Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 211 Rep Power: 3	Why can't I use my e-mail to send someone snail-mail? They're completely seperate systems. Yahoo servers use one set of servers and protocols while AOL uses another. You need an aol account to interact with aol servers and a yahoo account to interact with yahoo ones. The servers won't provide the information unless you have an account. There are tools out there that allow you to access them all in one place (see trillian) but you still need seperate credentials for each. Unless you can talk aol and yahoo to provide cross-protocol support you won't have 'one account' that can do everything. -MBirchmeier

Mar 24th, 2006, 3:56 PM	#5
Arevos Programming Guru Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,499 Rep Power: 4	Trillian, GAIM, Kopete and Miranda spring to mind.

Mar 24th, 2006, 10:13 PM	#6
Exodust Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India, The great :p Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Oh! I hadn't thought about that. Well so I need an account for yahoo to connect to the yahoo server to send an im to a yahoo user. But isn't there a way to bypass the server and connect directly to the other user?

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