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Old Feb 28th, 2006, 10:02 AM   #223
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Originally Posted by Arevos
The crux of my problem with omniscient/omnipotence and God is thus:

If God is omnipotent, then he could have created any Universe.
If God is omniscient, then he knew exactly what he he was creating.

Therefore the Universe God has created must, by definition, be precisely what He desires. Ergo, every action I make is exactly what God wants. Every movement of every atom is in perfect synchronosity with God's plan.

And when every action your make is according to a cosmic design; what place is there for free will? What's the point of Heaven and Hell?

That's my general problem with a perfect God.
The purpose of a free will is that God doesn't decide what you do, and hasn't created earth in a way that forces you. You're saying that you are a robot.
Well this was my last attempt to convince you, at least I tried

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Originally Posted by Arevos
Still, the fact remains that God sanctioned acts of war in the past, according to the Old Testament, that would result in a war crimes tribunal today.
Yes you are right, but it was to survive.

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I think it just shows we are intelligent animals
Hahahaha, you're funny. I know you are serious, but still.

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From the few bits I've read, I can't see how it differs from any other religious text that has been handed down through the centuries.
You will never know if you don't read it all

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Originally Posted by zander
i would say i'm a humanist, as believing in a god that was based on the image of man seems like your going in circles, because if your believing in a god that was based on man then why not just believe in man(or women) as you can actually see them and know that they're there.
What?
God has made us after His image, idols are made based on the image of men.
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