nemesis

Where do i begin. So here i am with my fresh installation of linux. It looks nice. Now i want to use my modem, but oh no, there are no drivers. Then i want to play a nice 3d linux game (tux racer), but no, i cant do that because ATI dont create linux drivers for anything less then a Radeon 8500. Then i might want to do some homework, no i cant do that because open office takes so long to load that the deadline for handing it in would have passed by the time it loads. Then i might find that i want to program in C++. No where are the api docs for all the linux apis. Are they in one neat place, NO. On windows there is the platform SDK where all the api docs are. There are lots of drivers. Open Office runs faster, though MS Word is better. I can if i wanted install Perl, Python and Ruby to do as much scripting as i wanted. MS provide the Express Editions of Visual Studio for free, no restrictions, and they have neat docs to. So i can do C/C++ programming easily without having to run to the command line. I can if i wanted also play a vast selction of pc games too. So i think there is probably really a few uses for linux, on the server and of businesses that require a customized OS. On the desktop windows it better. If you are using linux on your home pc, you really need to get out more.

tsofras

I can't say that you are wrong, i had experienced this problems a lot of time myself also. But, i suppose that i gain some knowledge also, when i was trying for 2 days, in my first distro of linux to mount my cd-rom.You can think that i am crazy, but i felt very good when i managed to do it.
I am not trying to change your opinion, but maybe you are trying to change mine . And for your last sentence in your post, i just want to tell you that now that i am living back in my country (Greece) i am going out all the time, this problem (staying in and deal only with my pc) i had it when i was studying in England.
No problem with your country, no offense, i loved it studying there, but i suppose you have to get out more...so to be a little open minded

nemesis

Well i have used Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X(yuch) and Windows(3.0 though 2003). And i dont give a rats arse wheather you liked my country. p.s im not trying to make this personal

nemesis

Actually i really like the ideas behind linux, and i program in java quite abit

tsofras

Imagine if i had told that i didn't like it, ok thats enough i suppose, i just want it to have a discussion with you.Excuse me if told something embarassing for you or your country.
And to finalize , we are making all this disagreement about the O.S. and the post is about programming language. c# is very good in my opinion, VB sucks, and java... i can tell you in one year
Peace

nemesis

Peace

OpenLoop

so... who won?

Mjordan2nd

I like Java quite a bit. Abdul, what exactly are you looking to do with Java?

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swestres

To go further off-topic.

When I say linux, I mean GNU/linux, I'm just to lazy to write it out all the time.
I suppose it was a winmodem? You could always try makin' something with wine, but I agree that windows software modems isn't that much to have when you're using linux.
You shouldn'y need ATI's drivers for that, the standard ati or radeon should work just fine on those versions.
As a sidenote, the ATI fglrx drivers for my Radeon 9600 pro works just fine. Too bad they're proprietary. And too bad they don't work as well with the 2.6 kernel.
Must be a problem with your installation. If it's not, there's always kword and abiword for wordprocessing.
man section 2 covers most (if not all) of the syscalls. Section 3 covers installed library calls. Just check the dirs. I little bit dirty perhaps, but it's not harder than checking MSDN och the SDK manual pages. man together with emacs is worth much more than VS6 in my eyes.
If you define the word 'better' in the same way that you define 'easier' then you're right. Windows is more user-friendly, a lot more fuzz, a bunch of software vulnerabilities and last but not least, its proprietarty (here's where my political side gets involved, sane readers beware!). It's not easy changing anything you don't like about it if you don't have access to the source-code. If I want to use an OS designed to make me dumb and that doesn't allow me to change it, I give Mr. Gates a call. Until that day, I'll stick with my fine-ass slackware distribution.


Yeah, about java. I don't like it, but I guess we all have to learn it one day. Why did they develop JVM's for cellphones anyway? Talk about bad(slow) feedback.

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OpenLoop

hey swestres, your signature, what is it?
Rap, Poetry, or you were high when you wrote it?

How about that for off topic