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>X< · Jul 4th, 2004, 7:26 PM

Basically i am wondering, is Visual C++ a different language to C++

Or is is C++ where you can see what is happening?

:huh::blink:

Thank you

Kylixen · Jul 4th, 2004, 7:33 PM

Visual C++ is Microsoft's C IDE. It has Microsoft's basic libraries, and MFC.

>X< · Jul 4th, 2004, 7:34 PM

Ok, thank you.

Can i just ask though
what does
IDE and MFC stand for. I am one big n00b

(you've got to start somewhere)

sarumont · Jul 5th, 2004, 10:41 AM

IDE = "Integrated Development Environment"

MFC = "Microsoft Foundation Class"

B)

yhdirectpro2 · Jul 5th, 2004, 5:17 PM

Basically, they are both things to help you design your applications.

Kylixen · Jul 5th, 2004, 7:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yhdirectpro2@Jul 5 2004, 09:17 PM
Basically, they are both things to help you design your applications.

More like things to restrict the building of your applications. It costs a small fortune, and is limited.

unknowen · Jul 12th, 2004, 1:19 AM

I have worked in porting projects, so m$ C++ compiler has some diferent interpriting of ANSI C/C++, as well as others.

deltener · Jul 16th, 2004, 8:51 PM

MS VC isn't that expensive

When going from your joe-bob C++ compiler to VC/MFC, you'll find that MFC really has a lot of pre-fab objects that contribute to rapid development. That said there are some serious performance issues with the objects that need to be worked around if they are going to be used in a profession environment. For instance the CString object really barfs when you start doing string concatenation vs, allocating a large buffer to begin with and using a char pointer.

If you're thinking of doing VC work, I highly recommend going to VC 2003 and using either managed C++ or C#.net. C# is a typesafe version of C++ with a bunch of other goodies. I remember having to do a LOT of coding to ensure object placement, skinning, and simple things like making a text link underline itself on hover. C# was a big slap in the face. It looks like they got it *mostly* right, and come on the IDE is pimp tacular

**By no means am i a bill gates lover**

Kylixen · Jul 17th, 2004, 11:12 AM

GTK > MFC

sarumont · Jul 17th, 2004, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by deltener@Jul 16 2004, 06:51 PM
**By no means am i a bill gates lover**

Lover, supporter...same diff.

Quote:

GTK > MFC

Agreed.

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Jul 4th, 2004, 7:26 PM	#1
>X< Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Basically i am wondering, is Visual C++ a different language to C++ Or is is C++ where you can see what is happening? :huh::blink: Thank you

Jul 4th, 2004, 7:34 PM	#3
>X< Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Ok, thank you. Can i just ask though what does IDE and MFC stand for. I am one big n00b (you've got to start somewhere)

Jul 5th, 2004, 5:17 PM	#5
yhdirectpro2 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Basically, they are both things to help you design your applications.

Jul 12th, 2004, 1:19 AM	#7
unknowen Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	I have worked in porting projects, so m$ C++ compiler has some diferent interpriting of ANSI C/C++, as well as others.

Jul 16th, 2004, 8:51 PM	#8
deltener Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	MS VC isn't that expensive When going from your joe-bob C++ compiler to VC/MFC, you'll find that MFC really has a lot of pre-fab objects that contribute to rapid development. That said there are some serious performance issues with the objects that need to be worked around if they are going to be used in a profession environment. For instance the CString object really barfs when you start doing string concatenation vs, allocating a large buffer to begin with and using a char pointer. If you're thinking of doing VC work, I highly recommend going to VC 2003 and using either managed C++ or C#.net. C# is a typesafe version of C++ with a bunch of other goodies. I remember having to do a LOT of coding to ensure object placement, skinning, and simple things like making a text link underline itself on hover. C# was a big slap in the face. It looks like they got it mostly right, and come on the IDE is pimp tacular By no means am i a bill gates lover

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