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Old Sep 28th, 2005, 10:37 PM   #11
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This concept is fairly relative to the person and their environment. I know of programmers on both sides of the spectrum. Typically, the people that have a balance of their analytical and creative sides (more so analytical) will make good programmers. Your mind set changes and is largely dictated by your environment.
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Old Sep 29th, 2005, 1:26 AM   #12
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If you play fast paced games, you tend to become a fast thinker. So there's no reason why programming won't make you a more logical person. But from my experience, my knoweledge of math(happens to be one of my favorite topics) led be to become a programmer. Computer Science itself borrows a lot of algorithms and designs from math.
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Old Sep 29th, 2005, 2:01 AM   #13
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well, i wouldn't say it makes you SMARTER (i believe intelligence to be a fixed personal attribute measuring one's intellectual POTENTIAL). but yes, i have noticed that it helps with logical and critical thinking to an INCREDIBLE degree.
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Old Sep 29th, 2005, 8:28 AM   #14
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Smarter? No I don't think so...I think it has made me dumber. For instance: I used to scoff at the idea of spending 14-20 hours a day at work...now I do it on a regular basis. Think that's smart? Hell no! I'm an Idiot.

Also, I used to have semi-coherent conversations with non-programmers. Now when I converse with non-programmers (and you all know you get this damn question) and they ask "so what do you do?" I go into a babble-mode trying to find simple normal english language words for what I do on a daily basis. I typically end up confusing the poor sap and they will ask a follow up question like "so if my computer is broken, you fix it?" And that's when I realize that I'm a idiot. I can't even converse with them...so I usually get tort and say "f**k NO!" and walk away.

Smarter...no way!

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Old Sep 29th, 2005, 8:50 AM   #15
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Smarter? No I don't think so...I think it has made me dumber. For instance: I used to scoff at the idea of spending 14-20 hours a day at work...now I do it on a regular basis. Think that's smart? Hell no! I'm an Idiot.

Also, I used to have semi-coherent conversations with non-programmers. Now when I converse with non-programmers (and you all know you get this damn question) and they ask "so what do you do?" I go into a babble-mode trying to find simple normal english language words for what I do on a daily basis. I typically end up confusing the poor sap and they will ask a follow up question like "so if my computer is broken, you fix it?" And that's when I realize that I'm a idiot. I can't even converse with them...so I usually get tort and say "f**k NO!" and walk away.

Smarter...no way!

lol
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I totally hear that, but I blame it on the Internet, the Internet makes people stupider. Nobody looks twice when somebody says something in a chat-room that is full of grammatical and spelling mistakes. I notice myself using bad grammar in work-emails, and have to make sure I re-read everything twice before sending it to a customer. Unfortunately I think I'm the only one who does that, I can pull up some examples of emails that go out to customers that I am ashamed to even read. Same goes for speaking. I was visiting a friend at my school the other day, and during lunch in the cafeteria, I actually heard a girl say, "g-t-g" before she had to leave....She might have been a looker, but I won't nominate her for the MENSA. I think I'm going to start a grassroots campaign to refrain todays youth from dis-learning due to the Internet. Oh, and if you think it's bad in the states, take a look at a Dutch IM conversation, they have some thing where typing in Caps/NoCaps is cool. i guESs iT gOeS sOmeThiNg liKe tHis.
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Old Sep 29th, 2005, 9:00 AM   #16
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Dizzutch,
lol a colleague of mine just walked into my office as I was posting to another thread and we got into exactly what you say. No one can spell online, or they don't give a crap.

I don't mean the L33T speakers either...that's fine, it can be considered a language of its own, I suppose.

I can't COUNT the times I have seen Psuedo-code spelled sudocode or suedocode or some other bastardized way. I have spell check on all my emails because I can't spell myself, due to the fact that English is so damn RANDOM...but I digress. I even double checked the spelling of colleague for my last post (to that other thread) and my colleague said "wtf? you're spell checking a post for the Internet? No one can spell online...why do you need to do that, no one will even know"

Anyhow...gtg
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Old Sep 29th, 2005, 9:02 AM   #17
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Learning makes you smarter no matter what it is, you could learn that the capital of France is Paris, (if you didnt no) and so in theory you are smarter. Its all relative to the person and the surroundings they find themselves in, take an IQ test get into MENSA if you can (i am close but oh well), talk to people there i am sure there are things they have no knowledge about.

Think of it in two ways there is knowledge (sp? i no its bad) and intelligence and i view them and different things one is being able to remember things the other is having an aptitude for learning and being able to absorb and reuse things.
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Old Sep 29th, 2005, 1:23 PM   #18
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Smarter? no, much more logical, YES. I think it has also enhanced my problem solving abilities, but that again falls into the realm of logic. The more programming languages you know the more logical you might become.

Holy argument Batman! So, given this axiom some forum members are close to becoming Spock!
DaWei, Ooble and Pizentios, to name a few.
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Old Sep 29th, 2005, 1:49 PM   #20
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Programming makes me more dumb...
For example, I started overusing ";" sign, when I write someones name I use hungarian notation, etc... I don't need to mention that I use indentation in my notebooks....
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