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kazbadan · Sep 26th, 2005, 4:17 PM

Hi! I just wanna ask which is th ebest program for casual game development.

My intention its to create simple games (2d or very very simple 3d) just for the fun of creating something.

I tried once a demo of a program about game development, and it was very funny. The challenge of try to find out how to make things work. Thats what i want.

I dont understand a bit about languages and the like, but i suspect (and probably i can be very wrong) that some program like C++ its too much complex for what i want.

since i dont catch nothing about these topics, can you say
1) the prgram/software that i am looking for
2) where can i get it (for free or not )
3) if here any free alternative, you can say it too.

Thanks a lot

Dizzutch · Sep 26th, 2005, 4:32 PM

there are some cool modules for languages out there, an example is pygame which is a module for python, i would recommend giving that a try.
let us know if you have any more questions
-Dizz

coldDeath · Sep 26th, 2005, 4:55 PM

With the Python language (www.python.org) you can use a module called PyGame(www.pygame.org) to help you create 2D games as apinlessly as possible. If you want to make 3D games, it is a little more complex and you will have to use PyOpenGL.

Both Python and PyGame have excellent documentation so it shouldn't be too hard. If you get stuck and need help we are here.

kazbadan · Sep 26th, 2005, 6:01 PM

thanks for the tips. I am downloading th pygame and pyhton.

btw, the demo software that i used was blitzbasic. Which one do you think its better? Python (with pygame module) or blitzbasic?

kazbadan · Sep 26th, 2005, 6:13 PM

i give up..just cant make it work. DOnt see where pygame is installed, python byitself it seems stupid...arggh..better come back to blitz basic

iignotus · Sep 26th, 2005, 11:03 PM

You're not going to get far at all with that attitude. Blitz basic is not a real programming language and was designed specifically for making games and the like. You need to take time out to learn an all purpose language that is much more powerful (e.g, python). Feel free to search the internet for solutions or ask us for help, but don't just *give up*.

Infinite Recursion · Sep 26th, 2005, 11:41 PM

C++ and OpenGL OR Python and Pygame.

kazbadan · Sep 27th, 2005, 9:48 AM

iignotus, my problem its make the program start...not the language itself.

The damn thing its not working. I dont understand exatly which files i need to download or install (i ve donwload some files). When i start python for instance, it will not work.

With pygame its the same. Its says something lik e hat it works only in win 98 or th elike, dont remember the exactly details. If what i need its an all purpose language, i suppose that C++ its better than Python (at least there are lots of things about C++).

What about openGl, what is that? Sometimes i see openGl word when i start some PC games...is that related with the openGl you speak about, Infinite Recursion?

Can you briefly describe tha advantages and disadvantages between the 2 options you speak about?

thanks a lot guys, and dont worry iignotus, ii wil not give up

Infinite Recursion · Sep 27th, 2005, 9:59 AM

here is a link with more info related to OpenGL: http://www.opengl.org/

Yes, games like Quake III, Doom etc... use OpenGL.

kazbadan · Sep 27th, 2005, 10:50 AM

thanks for the link

I just read the faqs on python and it speaks on platforms like unix, win NT, etc, but doesnt speak on win Xp. Maybe thats th eproblem. In other words, anything that doesnt work on my computer its garbage

.

Dont you guys think that something simple lile blitzbasic, its the ideal for someone just trying to have some fun with programming, while creating very simple 2D games?

Sep 26th, 2005, 4:17 PM	#1
kazbadan Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Qesution: Program for casual game development Hi! I just wanna ask which is th ebest program for casual game development. My intention its to create simple games (2d or very very simple 3d) just for the fun of creating something. I tried once a demo of a program about game development, and it was very funny. The challenge of try to find out how to make things work. Thats what i want. I dont understand a bit about languages and the like, but i suspect (and probably i can be very wrong) that some program like C++ its too much complex for what i want. since i dont catch nothing about these topics, can you say 1) the prgram/software that i am looking for 2) where can i get it (for free or not ) 3) if here any free alternative, you can say it too. Thanks a lot

Sep 26th, 2005, 4:32 PM	#2
Dizzutch Professional Programmer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 441 Rep Power: 4	there are some cool modules for languages out there, an example is pygame which is a module for python, i would recommend giving that a try. let us know if you have any more questions -Dizz __________________ naked pictures of you \| PFO F@H stats

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coldDeath Expert Programmer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 862 Rep Power: 4	With the Python language (www.python.org) you can use a module called PyGame(www.pygame.org) to help you create 2D games as apinlessly as possible. If you want to make 3D games, it is a little more complex and you will have to use PyOpenGL. Both Python and PyGame have excellent documentation so it shouldn't be too hard. If you get stuck and need help we are here. __________________ Programming Tutorials - Linux Installation Guide - Learn Python - Learn C++ Got Slack? Join us at #programmingforums @ irc.freenode.net! My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.

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iignotus Professional Programmer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nowhere Special Posts: 466 Rep Power: 4	You're not going to get far at all with that attitude. Blitz basic is not a real programming language and was designed specifically for making games and the like. You need to take time out to learn an all purpose language that is much more powerful (e.g, python). Feel free to search the internet for solutions or ask us for help, but don't just give up. __________________ (Toggle Plain Text) % rc4 hexkey < input > output #define S ,t=s[i],s[i]=s[j],s[j]=t /* rc4 hexkey <file / unsigned char k[256],s[256],i,j,t;main(c,v,e)charv;{++v;while(++i)s[ i]=i;for(c=0;(v)++;k[c++]=e)sscanf((v)++-1,"%2x",&e);while(j+=s[i] +k[i%c]S,++i);for(j=0;c=~getchar();putchar(~c^s[t+=s[i]]))j+=s[++i]S;}

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Sep 26th, 2005, 6:01 PM	#4
kazbadan Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	thanks for the tips. I am downloading th pygame and pyhton. btw, the demo software that i used was blitzbasic. Which one do you think its better? Python (with pygame module) or blitzbasic?

Sep 26th, 2005, 6:13 PM	#5
kazbadan Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	i give up..just cant make it work. DOnt see where pygame is installed, python byitself it seems stupid...arggh..better come back to blitz basic

Sep 27th, 2005, 9:48 AM	#8
kazbadan Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	iignotus, my problem its make the program start...not the language itself. The damn thing its not working. I dont understand exatly which files i need to download or install (i ve donwload some files). When i start python for instance, it will not work. With pygame its the same. Its says something lik e hat it works only in win 98 or th elike, dont remember the exactly details. If what i need its an all purpose language, i suppose that C++ its better than Python (at least there are lots of things about C++). What about openGl, what is that? Sometimes i see openGl word when i start some PC games...is that related with the openGl you speak about, Infinite Recursion? Can you briefly describe tha advantages and disadvantages between the 2 options you speak about? thanks a lot guys, and dont worry iignotus, ii wil not give up

Sep 27th, 2005, 9:59 AM	#9
Infinite Recursion Programming Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3,467 Rep Power: 8	here is a link with more info related to OpenGL: http://www.opengl.org/ Yes, games like Quake III, Doom etc... use OpenGL. __________________ http://jasonpowers.net "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."

Sep 27th, 2005, 10:50 AM	#10
kazbadan Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	thanks for the link I just read the faqs on python and it speaks on platforms like unix, win NT, etc, but doesnt speak on win Xp. Maybe thats th eproblem. In other words, anything that doesnt work on my computer its garbage . Dont you guys think that something simple lile blitzbasic, its the ideal for someone just trying to have some fun with programming, while creating very simple 2D games?

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