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Infinite Recursion · Jul 6th, 2005, 2:49 PM

Another reason is, educational institutions are more likely to have a class on C++ and not Python. Generating more students, which generate more occurences of encountered problems in C++

Cerulean · Jul 6th, 2005, 3:29 PM

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Windows, Linux, MSOffice

*scratches head*

Sane · Jul 6th, 2005, 5:08 PM

Wow the only non-help thread on this page about Python and it turns into a C++ topic. lol

uman · Jul 6th, 2005, 5:14 PM

Yes, Cerulean, Linux is written in C/C++. C/C++ means C or C++, and Linux is written in C.

Cerulean · Jul 6th, 2005, 9:05 PM

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Yes, Cerulean, Linux is written in C/C++. C/C++ means C or C++, and Linux is written in C.

Heh, didn't see the 'C/' part first time 'round.

uman · Jul 6th, 2005, 9:09 PM

No problem :-)

Dietrich · Jul 6th, 2005, 9:44 PM

C and C++ are not the same language!!!
I am offended to have C thrown in with C++, the beast!

There are plenty of Python 'few-liners' that would fill dozens of code pages in C++!

Cerulean · Jul 7th, 2005, 5:06 AM

You're not serious, right? My goodness, the re-usability of C++ is precisely what stops these thousand of C lines. I mean, associative arrays, linked lists, string classes... You have to get an external library or implement these yourself in C. Fun.
Extending Python in C is horrible because there is no easy way you can show the relationship between C data types and Python objects - you have to marshal everything with a bunch of pointers and cryptic functions yourself. There are C++ libraries (Boost:

ython, PyCXX) that, through operator overloading and inheritance, make Python objects usable almost transparently like C++ types/objects.

Dietrich · Jul 7th, 2005, 7:51 AM

Oops! All I am saying seriously is:
Don't give me that C/C++ thing. C and C++ are not the same language!!! Because of OOP, STL, and all the other advanced programming concepts C++ has real power, but C++ code is considerably more cryptic than C. C code in turn is more cryptic than Python code.

Yes, because of C++ I can actually enjoy Python. I know my motor car has oil in it to run faster, just keep it off me!

megamind5005 · Jul 18th, 2005, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dietrich

I know my motor car has oil in it to run faster, just keep it off me!

wow, that's a frickin' good analogy! My physics teacher wud adopt u as a son if he ever found u.

Jul 6th, 2005, 2:49 PM	#11
Infinite Recursion Programming Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3,467 Rep Power: 8	Another reason is, educational institutions are more likely to have a class on C++ and not Python. Generating more students, which generate more occurences of encountered problems in C++ __________________ http://jasonpowers.net "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."

Jul 6th, 2005, 5:08 PM	#13
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uman Expert Programmer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 794 Rep Power: 4	Yes, Cerulean, Linux is written in C/C++. C/C++ means C or C++, and Linux is written in C. __________________ Few people deserve to be compared to (Rush) Limbaugh, most of them were convicted at the Nuremburg trials. --WilliamSChips on Slashdot

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uman Expert Programmer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 794 Rep Power: 4	No problem :-) __________________ Few people deserve to be compared to (Rush) Limbaugh, most of them were convicted at the Nuremburg trials. --WilliamSChips on Slashdot

Jul 6th, 2005, 9:44 PM	#17
Dietrich Professional Programmer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 434 Rep Power: 4	C and C++ are not the same language!!! I am offended to have C thrown in with C++, the beast! There are plenty of Python 'few-liners' that would fill dozens of code pages in C++! __________________ I looked it up on the Intergnats!

Jul 7th, 2005, 5:06 AM	#18
Cerulean Professional Programmer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 459 Rep Power: 4	You're not serious, right? My goodness, the re-usability of C++ is precisely what stops these thousand of C lines. I mean, associative arrays, linked lists, string classes... You have to get an external library or implement these yourself in C. Fun. Extending Python in C is horrible because there is no easy way you can show the relationship between C data types and Python objects - you have to marshal everything with a bunch of pointers and cryptic functions yourself. There are C++ libraries (Boost:ython, PyCXX) that, through operator overloading and inheritance, make Python objects usable almost transparently like C++ types/objects.

Jul 7th, 2005, 7:51 AM	#19
Dietrich Professional Programmer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 434 Rep Power: 4	Oops! All I am saying seriously is: Don't give me that C/C++ thing. C and C++ are not the same language!!! Because of OOP, STL, and all the other advanced programming concepts C++ has real power, but C++ code is considerably more cryptic than C. C code in turn is more cryptic than Python code. Yes, because of C++ I can actually enjoy Python. I know my motor car has oil in it to run faster, just keep it off me! __________________ I looked it up on the Intergnats! Last edited by Dietrich; Jul 7th, 2005 at 8:06 AM.

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