lucky001101

Hello readers, I was wondering if anyone knew about any current binary compilers that turn written binary code into .exe's or unix files. I want to do this because I am pretty confident I can write SMALL programs in binary such as calculators,etc. I'm just wanting to do this so I can have the pride in it. thx for reading. Jeff.

Mad_guy

There is no such thing.


As of the current Computational Standards, there isn't a single Programming Language on Earth that is lower level than Assembly. And it's hard enough to code shit like a Calculator in Assembly anyway with user input and all. If you could get down to the Binary level, it'd take nine billion lines of code to get an addition.

Well, okay, that's not ENTIRELY true, it's actually possible to code in Native code AKA Machine Code, and yes, it can be done actually, but it's ridiculously stupid to do anyway because you have to take the long way around and go through a lot of hacks in your code to make the Machine code readable by humans, and because it's readable by humans, it's possible to code in it. Writing ASCII readable machine code is for very specific things only like writing Polymorphic Shellcode that can slip past an IDS for example, but that's just a small rant I'll stop right now.


Assembly is the lowest language you'll be able to code in, and it's fast and sexy, you should definately learn it. You'll look back on this and laugh because you're so 1337 with your Assembly knowledge.

Ooble

You could always open up a hex editor and start typing, if you really want to do this...

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uman

Coding in binary would make your coolness factor shoot through the roof. Not doing it regularly, but just knowing how.

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DaWei

"Coding in binary" is essentially just coding in machine code. There's no way to code at the level of microcode invoked by the machine instructions. If one consideres a pure assembler language (without high level constructs, macros, and so forth), it's merely a set of mnemonics representing op codes and operands. The binary value 0011 1110 0000 0001, for instance, will place the value "1" in the accumulator of a Z80 processor. Expressed as hex, that would be 3E 01. Mnemonically, it's LD A, 1. The 3E is the opcode whose pattern gates the gates that will clock a value (specifically, the value in the byte immediately following the opcode) into the A register. The following value is the operand. It's an example of an "immediate" reference, which means the value is embedded right into the instruction stream. A "direct" operation would mean that the address of the value is in the instruction, not the value, itself. An "indirect" operation would mean that another location (not the operand) contains the address of the value to use. That could be another register or another memory location.

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uman

Note that when I say "coding in binary" I mean writing your program with a hex editor.

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DaWei

Ahhhhhhh, strictly speaking that would be a textually-encoded (probably ASCII) hexadecimal representation of the binary values. You don't want to hear about true binary programming, which involves a switch for each bit on the address/data bus, a switch to select whether you're going to enter an address or data, a switch to step the address, and a switch to load the data. That is how we used to boot the machine -- enter enough code to tell the machine how to read a paper tape, feed a paper tape that had enough code to tell the machine how to read mag tape, then read the appropriate program in off mag tape. The word, "boot", comes from that process, as in lifting oneself up by one's bootstraps . Foisting such worthless drivel off on others is one of the few joys of being aged.

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uman

:-P

The coolest thing would be to get a magnet small enough to manipulate individual bits on the hard drive, and do stuff with that.

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DaWei

That's called a "read/write" head. Even on the old digital tape machines, which had MUCH larger magnetic transitions than modern hard drives, the gap in the head which laid down the magnetic transitions was around 200 microinches wide. Getcher hands on a 400x microscope and make sure yer notta tremblin' .

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nnxion

Aww yes, you have also worked with the awful punch cards then? Oops I dropped them..

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