Arla

Given that (for the Windows PC) these I believe are the two main free (currently at least) development environments, I was wondering what peoples comments were, I've not tried Visual C# Express but I'm wondering what those who have tried it think (what is good, what is bad?)

Currently I use SharpDevelop, in my mind it works fairly well, the main issue I have with it is the lack of Debugger, which isn't a huge problem for me (given that I am mostly a mainframe programmer so am quite used to having the equivalent of writeline statements everywhere) but I can see it being an issue for others who are more used to IDE's that include debuggers.

I've also noticed that occasionally sharp develops folding logic seems to get a bit confused, and that occasionally the autofill feature doesn't work as well as it might (although mainly this is when I change an external class while working on a project).

OpenLoop

One word: Refactoring. Visual C# has it, others don't.
One more: Improved Intellisence

you can also use common sence. a product developped by a large company and costs hundreds of dollars is offered for free Versus an open source product coded by some bored kids

BlazingWolf

Have you ever (tried to use) used Windows ME? You could have a better experience using linux even if you had no clue what you were doing just because ME sucks that much.

And the people that made #develop are very good programmers they are far from just bored kids.

And it's sense not sence. :p

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melbolt

does the express version allow you to sell your programs?

i know the student version doesn't legally allow you to do that. just wondering, cause express is very cheap and affordable.

but yea, intellisense is worth every penny, this is one thing you can pat Microsoft on the back for.

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OpenLoop

Maybe I generalized which is wrong but have you used Windows Xp, and compared it to what's out there these days? I spent 3 weeks to get my wireless card to work on Fedora core II VS 13 minutes on Windows Xp why? because redhat only cares about functionality of their product while Microsoft tries to be innovative and have usable products that actually make some senSe

Besides,I've been using visual studio for over two years and by far it is the best compared to Bloodshed, Borland, Anjuta, ...

Pizentios

just so you knwo alot of the time, linux drivers (for hardware) are coded by the community, the reason that your card didn't work very well is because hardware manufactures offten only make drivers for windows. That's why a little research before you by and hardware will go a long way. Also red hat sucks :-P

yeah.....now just wait for the flames to flame up.

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Lets start WWIII over slackware and fedora core

Everyone has there preferences of operating systems, windows vs linux, the smart people use them both and are flexible in learning new things Although, I do agree that Windows ME sucks! I've never used Visual C# Express, but I have used Sharp Develop and it suits my purposes just fine.

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Ooble

I prefer Visual C# Express to SharpDevelop, having tried them both. I'd still pick Visual C# Standard Edition 2003 over both, though.

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Having typed my repsonse above, just thought I should let you know that I use MS Visual Studio .NET most of the time.

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BlazingWolf

XP and ME don't compare. I said ME :p. It was just a example that a large company can make a shitty product worth hundrends of dollars.

I was challenging your common sense.

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