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Gink · May 21st, 2005, 5:54 PM

What are some reasons to learn HLA instead of x86 assembly?

iignotus · May 22nd, 2005, 2:09 AM

Well, first off because it seems a good deal easier than pure assembly (to someone who knows neither), and they say it's just as fast.

Betov · May 23rd, 2005, 9:15 AM

Assembly is way simpler to learn than HLA. The problem, with Assembly, is more the way of learning it "Top-Down" (from High level to Low level), than a language problem per se. If you learn Assembly from the low level, it is an incredibly simple language:

You just learn the various Data Sizes, 20 Mnemonics, or so, your choosen Assembler syntax, and you are ready to write an Application. At a real Language point of view, there is way _less_ to learn, in Assembly than, say, in Basic. Learning it "Top-Down" is nothing but a deturned way to access simplicity.

Now, at an ease of Developements point of view, this is no more a problem of Language, but a problem of Developement Environnement, what is another story.

betov.

< http://rosasm.org >

lostcauz · Jun 6th, 2005, 8:36 AM

Well put Betov. I must admit I expected something a little stronger from you after noticing your name in a thread concerning something of Mr. Hyde's.

Welcome to the club. We could really use your expertise.

May 21st, 2005, 5:54 PM	#1
Gink Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Reason to Learn HLA? What are some reasons to learn HLA instead of x86 assembly?

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iignotus Professional Programmer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nowhere Special Posts: 466 Rep Power: 4	Well, first off because it seems a good deal easier than pure assembly (to someone who knows neither), and they say it's just as fast. __________________ (Toggle Plain Text) % rc4 hexkey < input > output #define S ,t=s[i],s[i]=s[j],s[j]=t /* rc4 hexkey <file / unsigned char k[256],s[256],i,j,t;main(c,v,e)charv;{++v;while(++i)s[ i]=i;for(c=0;(v)++;k[c++]=e)sscanf((v)++-1,"%2x",&e);while(j+=s[i] +k[i%c]S,++i);for(j=0;c=~getchar();putchar(~c^s[t+=s[i]]))j+=s[++i]S;}

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lostcauz Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: 1691 miles East of L.A. Posts: 159 Rep Power: 5	Well put Betov. I must admit I expected something a little stronger from you after noticing your name in a thread concerning something of Mr. Hyde's. Welcome to the club. We could really use your expertise. __________________ -- lostcauz Stepped in what?... Behind whose barn?... I didn't even know they had a cow!

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May 23rd, 2005, 9:15 AM	#3
Betov Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Assembly is way simpler to learn than HLA. The problem, with Assembly, is more the way of learning it "Top-Down" (from High level to Low level), than a language problem per se. If you learn Assembly from the low level, it is an incredibly simple language: You just learn the various Data Sizes, 20 Mnemonics, or so, your choosen Assembler syntax, and you are ready to write an Application. At a real Language point of view, there is way _less_ to learn, in Assembly than, say, in Basic. Learning it "Top-Down" is nothing but a deturned way to access simplicity. Now, at an ease of Developements point of view, this is no more a problem of Language, but a problem of Developement Environnement, what is another story. betov. < http://rosasm.org >

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