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Old Jul 2nd, 2008, 8:41 PM   #31
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Re: Is it right to have your child baptised?

And circumcision is a *very* politicized topic. I would not believe a single thing a study said, until I had looked into who did the study, and how the study was conducted.

It's amazing how a small flap of skin can be such an emotionally incendiary device.
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Old Jul 2nd, 2008, 9:07 PM   #32
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Children should only be allowed to study religion when they reach 18. Then they can't be brainwashed. If an 18 year old is told about "god" and all those other characters in the story book known as the bible, then they would be able to see past it. Both Mao and Stalin had the right idea about banning religion.
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Old Jul 2nd, 2008, 10:35 PM   #33
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I don't anything about Mao, but Stalin didn't ban religion, he merely said there was only one denomination (or church) that you could legally attend. Any other worship was illegal, worshipping in your home was illegal, you could only worship in a state-owned church. Effectively, that would be brain-washing. No freedom of religion equates to believe our way or be punished.
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Old Jul 3rd, 2008, 12:36 AM   #34
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Re: Is it right to have your child baptised?

Baptism is like choosing what language to write a program in. There are many religions(programming languages) to choose from, but often you choose from what is traditional. In programming you choose what you have been taught or have been told is right because of tradition. the same goes for religion, you choose your child's religion when you baptize them quite often because of your families traditions.

P.S. That was the best response i could come up with to make this sorta related to programming.
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Old Jul 7th, 2008, 3:19 AM   #35
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Isnt that kind of forcing YOUR VIEWS on your kids??
Well kids mock other people. They will get their views on most things from their parents and teachers. Its not forcing its teaching. Not everyone has the same set of life rules. When kids become adults they become independant learners and the better a parent prepares them the more successful they will be in different situations. I mean whos views are better? Mine or yours? Maybe I believe that they isnt nothing wrong with knocking the crap out of someone that hits you. Others teach you to forgive and forget. turn the other cheek. I'm not a pacifist and I don't want my children to be either. Look around online. You can find videos of people just doing horrible things to each other while others just do nothing to try and stop it(Im not talking about porn) Most times if one person stops to help others will help also, cause most people knows whats right and wrong. Ever stopped to help a stranded motorist? Ever catch the next exit to turn around to hit the previous exit to get back to where someone was broken down to lend a helping hand? I have numberous times. If not for nothing less to lend them my cell phone so they can call family. Lets say the exit was 3/4 miles from where she was. I'd say about 3-4 cars passing every couple seconds. By the time I turned around to get back still no one else had stopped to help a 50+ year old woman starring at a flat tire. They isnt anything wrong with me teaching what I believe to be right and wrong to my children. and yes I will FORCE my children to live by my beliefs untill they leave my home. And they know they are somethings I won't forgive for. They will still be themselves but they will be well behaved. My son is greedy but I don't let him take advantage of my other two kids cause he wants more then they do. You obviously have no kids.
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Old Jul 7th, 2008, 8:20 AM   #36
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You should present facts to your children and let them decide for them selfs what they believe in. They don't have to be compassionate if they don't want to.
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I really hope your not confusing anti-war with pacifist. And LET YOUR CHILDREN DECIDE YOUR BELIEFS. They should take away your children.
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Old Jul 7th, 2008, 9:26 PM   #37
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You should present facts to your children and let them decide for them selfs what they believe in. They don't have to be compassionate if they don't want to.

I really hope your not confusing anti-war with pacifist. And LET YOUR CHILDREN DECIDE YOUR BELIEFS. They should take away your children.
So says the guy with a communist avatar.
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Old Jul 7th, 2008, 10:00 PM   #38
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You should present facts to your children and let them decide for them selfs what they believe in. They don't have to be compassionate if they don't want to.

I really hope your not confusing anti-war with pacifist. And LET YOUR CHILDREN DECIDE YOUR BELIEFS. They should take away your children.
Run over any kids with your tanks lately?
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Old Jul 7th, 2008, 10:22 PM   #39
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Re: Is it right to have your child baptised?

Communist countries own everything, including the children; that's why they call it communism. Having kids is a privelege allowed by the state, hence it is easy for him to say that. Be mindful of the culture whether you agree with it or not.
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Old Jul 8th, 2008, 7:49 AM   #40
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Re: Is it right to have your child baptised?

Good luck to any guy trying to get a girlfriend in America that's uncircumcised. Obviously I'm not yielding cold hard (no pun intended) facts, however, from middle to high school any sexual education class that I went to had girls grimacing in horror when a projection of an uncircumcised penis would hit the wall. I'm not stereotyping America in that it's IMPOSSIBLE or UNFATHOMABLE for a male with foreskin to get (and keep) a girlfriend but I think the chips are stacked against you.

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They will get their views on most things from their parents and teachers. Its not forcing its teaching. .... When kids become adults they become independant learners and the better a parent prepares them the more successful they will be in different situations.
First, I agree that most children accept views their parents place in front of them. But it's a crock of shit to say it's not forcing and that it's teaching. Teaching requires two things, a student and an unbiased mentor. Unbiased being the key. Sitting in science class having my biology teacher teaching me evolution when he was the leader of our high school's "Students For Christ" club is being unbiased. And no I'm not talking some petty bull crap like this programming prof. is biased toward indentation in this format and this one isn't or do your long division this way as opposed to this way. How can a kid become an independent thinker when his supposed independent ideologies are stripped away when he's force fed thoughts on life? A child has no means or ability to engage in a truly meaningful and concrete discussion on life until they hit a certain age. When you're 5 and you're told this is what happens/happened and you're surrounded by others, who when they were the same age were told the same thing, does not stimulate thought. It's force feeding ideas into someones life. Let children breath and enjoy life, and make the decisions themselves. You could take a child and tell them anything, and after being told enough times they will believe it. EVEN without solid evidence, and no I'm sorry folks but I don't think the bible is concrete enough for me. But it's very solid when you're told in your earliest years that everything in this book is true no matter what. I could hand a kid the lord of the rings series, and say this happened thousands of years ago, I bet you they would believe it after years of force feeding : )

George Carlin said it best (rip).
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