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View Poll Results: Broken a EULA?
Yup, it was easy. 18 85.71%
No, EULA is law. 0 0%
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Old Oct 19th, 2007, 2:32 AM   #1
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Question Have you ever broken a game EULA?

I was just wondering how many people out there have voided a games EULA.

NOT BY PIRATING or things related to that, I'm thinking for along the lines of MMORPG's and breaking their rules in the EULA.
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Old Oct 19th, 2007, 4:31 AM   #2
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Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA?

EULA's aren't worth the paper they're written on.
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 7:38 PM   #3
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Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA?

After every game I install I find its corresponding no-cd hack. I assume thats breaking the EULA.
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 8:36 PM   #4
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Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA?

Well, the anti-piracy schemes are themselves breaking the law, why would anybody honor a eula?
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 10:04 PM   #5
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Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA?

i got interested in coding by counterstrike, i saw a group of hackers and thought "the code to do that kind of stuff would definitely take some research."

i got into looking how to make game trainers and eventually modified one for battlefield 2, and used it online - effectively violating punkbusters EULA and getting cd-key banned from ALL punkbuster enabled servers.

I don't hack in online games to appear better, troll or do anything but see if the hack works as intended.
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Old Nov 8th, 2007, 10:37 PM   #6
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Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA?

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Well, the anti-piracy schemes are themselves breaking the law, why would anybody honor a eula?
How are these schemes breaking the law?
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Old Nov 9th, 2007, 1:12 AM   #7
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Well, the anti-piracy schemes are themselves breaking the law, why would anybody honor a eula?
That doesn't make stooping an honorable activity either
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Old Nov 9th, 2007, 11:28 AM   #8
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I've no idea ... if I actually read the EULA of every game I installed, it might use up several weeks of my life. I'd rather not take that chance.
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Old Nov 10th, 2007, 3:39 AM   #9
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The anti-piracy schemes disallow making copies of software you've paid for, which is allowed by law for personal use. With what software costs nowadays, I'd hate to have my $500 visual studio disk ruined because of unforeseen circumstances and not be able to use it should my hard drive die and I have no disks to re-install it. You think if I called Microsoft and explained to them that my kid stuck my cd in the microwave they'd send me a replacement?
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Old Nov 10th, 2007, 5:26 AM   #10
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Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA?

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The anti-piracy schemes disallow making copies of software you've paid for, which is allowed by law for personal use.
Be careful with blanket statements like that. It really depends on the licensing terms of the software as well as the laws in the jurisdiction you happen to be in.
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With what software costs nowadays, I'd hate to have my $500 visual studio disk ruined because of unforeseen circumstances and not be able to use it should my hard drive die and I have no disks to re-install it.
Treat it like any other valuable, if you're not willing and/or able to make a copy.
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You think if I called Microsoft and explained to them that my kid stuck my cd in the microwave they'd send me a replacement?
You think if you called Ford and told them your kid smashed up your car that they'd send you a replacement? That said, many EULAs do allow you to make a backup. For example, the Visual Studio 2005 EULA allows this:
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11. BACKUP COPY. You may make one backup copy of the software. You may use it only to reinstall the software.
Of course, this is all getting off-topic; the OP explicitly said he wasn't referring to piracy.
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