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MindTheGap · Jun 10th, 2007, 6:37 PM

Can you please expand on "virtual machine"?

So, how long should I spend on Java?

DaWei · Jun 10th, 2007, 8:34 PM

A virtual machine is like a blow-up doll. It might get the job done, but it doesn't quite hack it.

titaniumdecoy · Jun 10th, 2007, 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MindTheGap

Okay, so I should learn C# or Java. I'm on a mac and I want to do most of my stuff on the mac, so which language is more mac compatible?

If you want to make native Mac applications, you want to look into Cocoa/Objective-C. I have a lot of programming experience, and yet I have found it too difficult to learn so far. However, if you want to make truly elegant Mac applications, this is the way to go.

Java is much easier to learn and will make your applications portable, but the user interface will be unsightly in comparison to a native Mac app.

BTW, C# is for Windows only. And forget about virtualizing another OS.

Soulstorm · Jun 11th, 2007, 10:52 AM

If you are using Mac, but want to stay portable, you may want to learn C++ first. C++ will introduce you to many programming concepts that will later help you understand Objective C/Objective C++. It will also allow you to write native Mac applications using Carbon, and also to use some Core features of the Mac environment that are not accessible with other languages.

Java will sure make your programs easier to write, without having to write platform-specific code, but framework support for Java in Macs is currently abandoned, so I don't recommend learning Java.

jayme · Jun 11th, 2007, 5:13 PM

A programming language is similar to a lifestyle. Not one of us can tell you which is best for you.

MindTheGap · Jun 11th, 2007, 6:37 PM

I see.

You guys have helped me out a lot, and I thank you for it.

I signed myself up for a C++ class at school for next year. So, i'll be learning C++. After I master C++ (which will probably be a long time), i'll move on to more languages.

Fall Back Son · Jun 18th, 2007, 2:56 AM

Don't be so hard on yourself. I just started learning C and after two semesters, I have learned a lot about it. I don't claim to be great at it, but what I'm saying is, with enough dedication, it is possible to learn most languages.

Infinite Recursion · Jun 18th, 2007, 12:32 PM

I agree with Fall Back Son.

cheap freelancer · Jun 20th, 2007, 5:30 AM

It depends on what kind of project you want to work, for webdesigning PHP, Ruby is better, for software project C++,Java is better.

PatBenetar4Life · Jul 6th, 2007, 2:02 AM

Well its possible to know more than one language very well. I would think the most useful ones are Java and C++

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DaWei Resident Grouch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,453 Rep Power: 10	A virtual machine is like a blow-up doll. It might get the job done, but it doesn't quite hack it. __________________ Abstraction doesn't make it impossible to write bad code; it makes it possible to write superior code. Contributor's Corner: Grumpy on C++ Exceptions DaWei on Pointers

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Soulstorm Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Menidi, Athens, Greece Posts: 239 Rep Power: 3	If you are using Mac, but want to stay portable, you may want to learn C++ first. C++ will introduce you to many programming concepts that will later help you understand Objective C/Objective C++. It will also allow you to write native Mac applications using Carbon, and also to use some Core features of the Mac environment that are not accessible with other languages. Java will sure make your programs easier to write, without having to write platform-specific code, but framework support for Java in Macs is currently abandoned, so I don't recommend learning Java. __________________ Project::Soulstorm (personal homepage)

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Jun 10th, 2007, 6:37 PM	#11
MindTheGap Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Can you please expand on "virtual machine"? So, how long should I spend on Java?

Jun 11th, 2007, 6:37 PM	#16
MindTheGap Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	I see. You guys have helped me out a lot, and I thank you for it. I signed myself up for a C++ class at school for next year. So, i'll be learning C++. After I master C++ (which will probably be a long time), i'll move on to more languages.

Jun 18th, 2007, 2:56 AM	#17
Fall Back Son Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 204 Rep Power: 2	Don't be so hard on yourself. I just started learning C and after two semesters, I have learned a lot about it. I don't claim to be great at it, but what I'm saying is, with enough dedication, it is possible to learn most languages.

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PatBenetar4Life Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Well its possible to know more than one language very well. I would think the most useful ones are Java and C++

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