ReggaetonKing

I like programming in C#. The GUI Builder is amazing and very fast when coming to build projects. But for some reason, I like porting my programs to other OS's and that's where Java comes in. I can't stop programming in Java. Java is my favorite programming language. Even though, I wish there was/will be a standard on GUI building like Visual Studio to C#.

Personally though, I don't believe in programming just for one OS. I use Linux, Windows, and I am about to buy a MacBook and why should I re-write a program just so I can use on another machine! This is just my opinion.

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bulio

I agree with the portability in most cases, but in my case, the target platform is Windows. All the company machines here run Windows with the exception of the webserver, which runs Debian Linux. I was thinking of trying Java, but I've heard that the GUI[s] aren't as RAD or as easy as C#'s.

ReggaetonKing

Trust me when I say this, Java GUI apps are a pain in the ass to program! It really hard because you have to know different types of layout managers and so forth. In the end, it's worth the effort.

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milot

Yes it's true for cross-platform programming and I fully agree with you, but Mono in its new version has new ports from microsoft:

so you can port you application in Mono which is cross-platform too, it works on Windows, Linux, Mac OS X.

There are several Visual GUI Builders for Java like: http://www.jvider.com/

People can use them until they learn those layout managers.

commodore

Companies, companies, companies. Do you people program to earn money? I program because it's fun, interesting and I enjoy it. Even if I would earn money off it someday, it would be because I need money, not that I want to program for money.

I don't like .NET being too much Microsoft specific. People say mono is slow but I have already seen a lot of good Linux apps developed with it - Beagle, F-spot and Banshee.

Has anyone tried GUI programming on a Mac? They have that Interface Builder. I heard good things about it but I won't get my hands ever on a Mac probably

DaWei

Would I be correct in presuming you aren't yet responsible for your own sustenance and survival?

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Tim

I know exactly how you feel. I love the way Visual Studio and Delphi let you just drag and drop components, set Properties and configure event handlers.

In the Java world there is Netbeans, which is nearly on par with Visual Studio but it is just far too slow to work in. I have recently used the latest releases of Netbeans and Eclipse. Eclipse is just so much more responsive than Netbeans due to the fact the GUI was built using SWT. SWT is a native GUI toolkit for Java and is far faster than swing. The problem with Eclipse is that it does not have a visual designer in the default installation. Also the visual designer that has been created for swing is tied to certain releases of Eclipse so it means you have to be aware of this when installing eclipse.

Personally I end up coding my own GUI for Java. This is far from ideal as swing GUI's tend to get quite complecated with all the different layout managers and JPannels.

Arevos

Are the two mutually exclusive?

commodore

What does "mutually exclusive" mean?

I don't mind taking money for programming but money shouldn't be the goal itself when programming.

Arevos

It means that out of a number of options, only one can be chosen. For instance, typically one can only be alive or dead. Thus these are mutually exclusive states to be in.

My question was rhetorical. I was merely pointing out that one can program for money, and also program for pleasure. Sometimes the two even overlap; I've worked on a number of programming problems at work which have been rather interesting.