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Old Nov 16th, 2006, 3:33 AM   #21
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you're 13?

go outside and play baseball or something...another 10 years or so and people will expect things from you. don't DROP programming, but seriously, have fun
Agreed...
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Old Nov 16th, 2006, 8:40 AM   #22
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you're 13?

go outside and play baseball or something...another 10 years or so and people will expect things from you. don't DROP programming, but seriously, have fun while you can.
Just because you're 13, it doesn't mean programming isn't fun?
I'm 14, and programming is my biggest interest. I'm using seven to eight hours almost everyday - and I think it's fun.

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do what you wanna do, it sounds like you're hyper-smart
I know the post wasn't for me, but, I think he do what he like to do.
I don't neither think it's to be hyper-smart. In my school and class, it isn't cool at all, to spent time at the computer... it's "nerdy".


This is just my opinion (right now), I'll probably get wiser through time.
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Old Nov 16th, 2006, 9:50 AM   #23
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Anyone who has tried to make a GUI programmatically in Java can probably sympathise lol.
Uh! Who are you telling?! I hate building my GUI. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it at times but there are just times when I say, I need a GUI Builder like Visual C# or VB.NET!

I wish I knew about programming when I was 13. I love doing it and it's so addictive. And also the amount of money one can get paid doing it. A Dream!
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Old Nov 16th, 2006, 8:46 PM   #24
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I love doing it and it's so addictive. And also the amount of money one can get paid doing it. A Dream!
Really? How much are we talking about? What I DO know is that the MCSDs (Microsoft Certified Solutions Developer) get more than $10,000 per month, but that's those guys...And there's only 21,000+ MCSDs in the world.
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Old Nov 16th, 2006, 8:58 PM   #25
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Go to this website: http://www.monster.com/ and select your region and in the search box type "VB.NET" or "Visual Basic .NET". Look at the jobs and see for yourself.

EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't see that you are from the Philippines.
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I want to be either an IT Teacher at one of the nice private schools here in australia (No we dont ride kangaroos, damn skippy) or a MCSD, i would love to work for microsoft!
Any ideas how people become MCSD's
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Old Nov 17th, 2006, 4:26 PM   #27
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I recommend this link: http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsd/default.mspx
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I think that it does not matter what language you use to learn how to program in. Visual Basic.net is a full object oriented language. You can learn the fundamentals of OOP from this and then transfer it to any other OOP language.

Now VB.net does use BASIC syntax (surpirse) for slection and iteration etc and some people dont like this. In some ways its verbositybut makes it easier for programmers to read in an english like way. Obviously if you then learn a C syntax style language you will have to learn a completely new set of syntax but the core principals of programming will be transferable.

Leaning java or c# would get you used to reading code that does not rely so much on long keywords. You are young so there is no real rush to learn lots of different languages so start with VB.net and then in a year or so move on to c# or whatever. It will take you at least two years to learn how to program. Reading a book will not suddenly mean you can write anything and everything. It is the mindset and problem solving skill that are developed over time by practice and reading that are key to being a good programmer.
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Old Nov 17th, 2006, 8:08 PM   #29
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I think that it does not matter what language you use to learn how to program in. Visual Basic.net is a full object oriented language. You can learn the fundamentals of OOP from this and then transfer it to any other OOP language.

Now VB.net does use BASIC syntax (surpirse) for slection and iteration etc and some people dont like this. In some ways its verbositybut makes it easier for programmers to read in an english like way. Obviously if you then learn a C syntax style language you will have to learn a completely new set of syntax but the core principals of programming will be transferable.

Leaning java or c# would get you used to reading code that does not rely so much on long keywords. You are young so there is no real rush to learn lots of different languages so start with VB.net and then in a year or so move on to c# or whatever. It will take you at least two years to learn how to program. Reading a book will not suddenly mean you can write anything and everything. It is the mindset and problem solving skill that are developed over time by practice and reading that are key to being a good programmer.

i totally agree with you, VB .NET is the first langauge that I started programming larger serious applications in for my career and it gave me a great start. gives you a better handle on object oriented programming, threading, events, etc. a lot of the fundamentals can be learned through this.
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Yup...First thing you need to do is gain at least 2 years of professional programming experience. After that, you need to go take exams (5 I think) which is all about making applications, and stuff like that. Each test costs about 125 US dollars.

I too also wanna be an MCSD. It's gonna be tough, I know, but, as always...no pain, no gain.

You can learn more about MCSDs either in Microsoft or in Wikipedia
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