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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 2:19 PM   #11
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@O.P.: What language did you use to develop that program?
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 4:09 PM   #12
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YOUR ONLY 13?! thats insane... i didnt start programming until i was 16 and i still don't program things that advanced
Hey, I started at the age of 8 . I don't think starting age makes a lot of difference - as long as you are not 50 years old and talented enough, you'll make it.
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 6:02 PM   #13
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YOUR ONLY 13?! thats insane... i didnt start programming until i was 16 and i still don't program things that advanced
starting to see a lot more "youngins" getting an early start nowadays, its a different world now. I wasn't even able to get my hands on a somewhat decent computer until I was about 16 or 17. Nowadays though, kids get to play around with them starting in their infancy.

even taking this into account though, that's pretty good to have the discipline to want to teach yourself programming at such a young age though unless there is someone close to you who codes to get you started and show you the ropes.
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 7:22 PM   #14
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I don't like VB, myself, but I'd like to point out that syntax is a variable from language to language; one merely adapts. Problem solving is the important skill, and you can learn that with any language. The degree of abstraction will drive your approach to solutions, but they'll all teach you critical thinking if you listen. Keep after it.

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Fifty-year-olds are mere infants. I don't think age is critical on either end; it's trying to start a fire by rubbing two brain cells together that's important.
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 8:35 PM   #15
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but I'd like to point out that syntax is a variable from language to language; one merely adapts.
My thoughts exactly a few hours ago...
In my opinion, the more you learn about languages, the more you are adaptable...I think.
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 11:23 PM   #16
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Thanks for your help, by the way, my Source isnt just pictures, the JavaScript files are in the data and GUI area, its web based.
Anyway, i have a good PC that im on now, Celeron D 2.2ghz (its not too god of a processor, i want a pentium) 768MB RAM, Windows XP SP2 (I want vista when it comes out but my mum is too edgey), and DSL at 10mbps, my other old crappy laptop which i did up however has 64mb RAM, Windows XP, 233mhz Processor Pentium 2 and i can use a wireless card, i want to use VB2005 language on my laptop, but i dont have enough RAM or Processor power on my laptop, i hate sitting at my PC all the time, can i run VB2005 through my PC wirelessly to my Laptop?? or is there any other VB2005 language program that can fit my programs requirements?
Thanks for all the help.
P.S, is VB 2003.net like VB 2005

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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 11:44 PM   #17
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Ahh, I see...And here I was thinking that I'll buy "Mastering Visual Basic 2005" by Evangelos Petroutsos when it won't do me any good...thanks for the tips

By the way, I've been eyeing the book package of Microsoft entitled the Visual C# Deluxe Learning Edition, but with a tag of about $60...It's a bit heavy on the pocket; anyone there with this book? How is it?

Oh yeah, before I forget: My programming friend says VIsual C# is definitely more powerful thatn Visual Basic 2005...any truth to that? Thanks

either way, it is a very good thing to have on your resume nowadays, if you don't believe me, try a search on a jobsite like monster.com, lots of jobs out there that want people with VB .NET knowledge.

not sure what you mean by "won't do me any good".
I myself program VB nearly everyday. One example: its good enough to make a information management system for the US Army, which i'm currently taking part in. VB .NET in my opinion is one of the best languages for rapid development. It has come a very long way since the old VB I think many of you are confusing with .NET

For someone who has used both VB .NET and C#, I feel these langauges are way to similar to share the opinions of the other posters above me.

At my place of employment, I hop around between many languages all the time C++, VB .NET, C#, php, actionscript, Java, etc

VB still remains one of my favorite languages to program in and it was the language that I first started programming large-scale software in out of college. When I have just finished writing a program in Java and come back to VB .NET I have a "thank god" feeling. Anyone who has tried to make a GUI programmatically in Java can probably sympathise lol.

VB .NET can create complex apps, our current VB .NET solution contains over 150 projects and millions of lines of code, the back end is very in-depth and contains layers upon layers, its not always "the wimp's langauge" if you get a chance to use it fully.


when you say C# is more "powerful" than VB .NET, I'd say there is very little truth to that, afterall, they both run off the .NET framework.

As for me, I have barely even felt the need to "learn" C# after programming VB .NET for awhile, I was able to hop right over and use C# pretty much instantly, any differences between the languages were overcome with a single google search, and about 2 minutes of reading.

So in my opinion, VB .NET is a great language, to me it doesn't carry that "child's toy" feel to it that many other programmers express it as.
It is a serious language meant for professional development and is used everyday by many companies to do so.

what it is not however,
it is not your portable code langauge, but then again, there are many limitations in .NET in this area.

as for your general system software, its a great langauge to know.

but that's just my opinion
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Old Nov 15th, 2006, 11:48 PM   #18
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Any answer to my question, what IDE can i use to develop VB.Net off my laptop (see 2nd previous post)
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my other old crappy laptop which i did up however has 64mb RAM, Windows XP, 233mhz Processor Pentium 2 and i can use a wireless card, i want to use VB2005 language on my laptop, but i dont have enough RAM or Processor power on my laptop, i hate sitting at my PC all the time, can i run VB2005 through my PC wirelessly to my Laptop?? or is there any other VB2005 language program that can fit my programs requirements?Thanks for all the help.
P.S, is VB 2003.net like VB 2005
yea, that's one downfall in .NET 2005 is, its a major resource hog and you will notice it lol, i punch my desk 50 times a day when it hangs or crashes lol.

As for the question, one option is to set it up on your best machine and do a remote desktop connection into it and work from your laptop that way, that's what i do when i work late. I remote in to my work machine and work from my laptop. I don't even have studio installed on my laptop.

another option:

i just googled and found this http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/
it may suit your needs.
it looks pretty cool, and the setup file is 8MB. It claims it can run off the .NET framework, may be worth looking into. I am checking it out now and in my opinion its a pretty neat little IDE. also does C#.

Edit: very cool, it has the framework built into the intellisense as well, design mode and code view, i think i may have to switch my IDE!! lol

only downfall i see so far vs. Visual Studio is lack of team foundation server(source control) but you could always use an external one if you needed source control, like tortoise, which is also free btw.


as for the 2003 vs. 2005, its not an enormous difference, a lot of the code can usually be converted over successfully from 2003 to 2005. the differences are Visual Studio .Net 2003 uses version 1.1 of the framework, whereas 2005 uses version 2.0 of the framework. the IDE i put the URL for can do both frameworks
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Old Nov 16th, 2006, 3:10 AM   #20
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you're 13?

go outside and play baseball or something...another 10 years or so and people will expect things from you. don't DROP programming, but seriously, have fun while you can. i'm carrying a full college load, working 40 hours a week, and have a wife and daughter that all want my time.

now if programming is FUN, like it is to me and these other guys, then have fun with it! fuck resumes and that shit. you're 13 dude, when i was 13 i spent my time trying to find all 96 exit gates on super mario world...and i did. then my little sister erased all of it.

do what you wanna do, it sounds like you're hyper-smart...but beware of the big bad responsibility monster, he's a bitch...and right now you don't have to deal with him.
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