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Old Feb 25th, 2006, 11:53 AM   #1
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Visual Studio vs Visual C++

I'm a relativly new programmer and i'm having some trouble understanding the differences between Visual Studio vs Visual C++. I have both and currently i'm using visual studio because i've been doing vb.net programming. I'm trying to move over to C++ however and just trying to run simple programs in visual studio isn't happening. i tried them in visuall C++ and didn't have a problem. Is there something small here that i'm missing or do i not understand the big picture between the two?
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Old Feb 25th, 2006, 11:57 AM   #2
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Its like asking Microsoft Office vs Microsoft Word, Viusal C++ is part of the whole Visual Studio. Visual Studio includes Visual C++,Visual J++, Visual J#, Visual C#, and Visual BASIC.NET
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Old Feb 25th, 2006, 1:47 PM   #3
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I don't think it includes Visual J++... Microsoft doesn't use it anymore. Although I think J# is very similar, because it is just J++ on the .NET Framework instead of Microsoft's JVM.

EDIT: ...and I'll also add that if it is really Visual Studio you're using for Visual Basic, then you should be able to do C++ with it too. Unless it is Visual Basic .NET Standard, then it is only Visual Basic.
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Old Feb 25th, 2006, 5:34 PM   #4
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Thanks for the replies. I understand a little better now and I figured out why I am confusing myself. There version of Visual C++ that I have, when you create a new project the source file that comes up is blank. When you start a new project in visual studio it automatically adds some script for you, which is what was throwing me off. Thanks again though.
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Old Feb 25th, 2006, 8:19 PM   #5
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In the dim dark ages (1995 or so), the Microsoft compilers were provided as separate products (eg C++ was sold separately from VB). Visual Studio is just a collection of them, in a common framework.
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Old Feb 25th, 2006, 9:08 PM   #6
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When you start a new project in visual studio it automatically adds some script for you, which is what was throwing me off.
I believe that's just a checkbox option (or a radio button) somewhere when you run the Add Project wizard...
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Old Feb 26th, 2006, 2:40 AM   #7
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When I tried to learn C at one point (I failed at learning it then) I worked with Visual Studio (Which had Visual C++), but now I'm learning C again since I failed learning it the first time and I'm using Dev-C++, I like Dev-C++ much better then Visual C++ for some reason and my progress in C is great so far (The compiler had nothing to do with it)...

I'm not a super expert to tell you the advantages and dis-advantages between Dev-C++ and Visual C++ but the one thing I liked about Visual C++ is that it was part of Visual Studio, in VS you can also code in Visual Basic where in Dev-C++ it's only for C/C++. On the other hand most will probably favour Dev-C++ instead of Visual C++ because it's FREE.

There's also Borland C++ but I was told to stay away from it and stick with Dev-C++ for now.
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Old Feb 26th, 2006, 2:58 AM   #8
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On the other hand most will probably favour Dev-C++ instead of Visual C++ because it's FREE.
Microsoft currently has a free version of VC++
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Old Feb 26th, 2006, 3:36 AM   #9
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Microsoft currently has a free version of VC++
Ohh yea? that's quite interesting, I personally have Visual Studio Pro 6.0 but I never knew they gave away VC++ for free.

In that case I don't know what's better between VC++ and Dev-C++, but I heard that VC++ is more pro and more used in the industry, if that's the case then I guess it gets the edge over all the other compilers.
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Old Feb 26th, 2006, 4:15 AM   #10
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Ohh yea? that's quite interesting, I personally have Visual Studio Pro 6.0 but I never knew they gave away VC++ for free.
I'd recommend an upgrade. Microsoft was pretty lax when it came to standards compliance until they first released .NET. VC++ 6.0 can cause issues if you expect your code to comply to the standard.
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