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Ghost · Oct 19th, 2007, 3:32 AM

I was just wondering how many people out there have voided a games EULA.

NOT BY PIRATING or things related to that, I'm thinking for along the lines of MMORPG's and breaking their rules in the EULA.

Arevos · Oct 19th, 2007, 5:31 AM

EULA's aren't worth the paper they're written on.

InfiNate · Nov 8th, 2007, 8:38 PM

After every game I install I find its corresponding no-cd hack. I assume thats breaking the EULA.

Jabo · Nov 8th, 2007, 9:36 PM

Well, the anti-piracy schemes are themselves breaking the law, why would anybody honor a eula?

MiKuS · Nov 8th, 2007, 11:04 PM

i got interested in coding by counterstrike, i saw a group of hackers and thought "the code to do that kind of stuff would definitely take some research."

i got into looking how to make game trainers and eventually modified one for battlefield 2, and used it online - effectively violating punkbusters EULA and getting cd-key banned from ALL punkbuster enabled servers.

I don't hack in online games to appear better, troll or do anything but see if the hack works as intended.

lectricpharaoh · Nov 8th, 2007, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabo

Well, the anti-piracy schemes are themselves breaking the law, why would anybody honor a eula?

How are these schemes breaking the law?

Jimbo · Nov 9th, 2007, 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabo

Well, the anti-piracy schemes are themselves breaking the law, why would anybody honor a eula?

That doesn't make stooping an honorable activity either

Klipt · Nov 9th, 2007, 12:28 PM

I've no idea ... if I actually read the EULA of every game I installed, it might use up several weeks of my life. I'd rather not take that chance.

Jabo · Nov 10th, 2007, 4:39 AM

The anti-piracy schemes disallow making copies of software you've paid for, which is allowed by law for personal use. With what software costs nowadays, I'd hate to have my $500 visual studio disk ruined because of unforeseen circumstances and not be able to use it should my hard drive die and I have no disks to re-install it. You think if I called Microsoft and explained to them that my kid stuck my cd in the microwave they'd send me a replacement?

lectricpharaoh · Nov 10th, 2007, 6:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabo

The anti-piracy schemes disallow making copies of software you've paid for, which is allowed by law for personal use.

Be careful with blanket statements like that. It really depends on the licensing terms of the software as well as the laws in the jurisdiction you happen to be in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabo

With what software costs nowadays, I'd hate to have my $500 visual studio disk ruined because of unforeseen circumstances and not be able to use it should my hard drive die and I have no disks to re-install it.

Treat it like any other valuable, if you're not willing and/or able to make a copy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabo

You think if I called Microsoft and explained to them that my kid stuck my cd in the microwave they'd send me a replacement?

You think if you called Ford and told them your kid smashed up your car that they'd send you a replacement? That said, many EULAs do allow you to make a backup. For example, the Visual Studio 2005 EULA allows this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visual Studio 2005 EULA

11. BACKUP COPY. You may make one backup copy of the software. You may use it only to reinstall the software.

Of course, this is all getting off-topic; the OP explicitly said he wasn't referring to piracy.

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Oct 19th, 2007, 3:32 AM	#1
Ghost Man Bear Pig Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NorCal, USA Posts: 310 Rep Power: 4	Have you ever broken a game EULA? I was just wondering how many people out there have voided a games EULA. NOT BY PIRATING or things related to that, I'm thinking for along the lines of MMORPG's and breaking their rules in the EULA.

Oct 19th, 2007, 5:31 AM	#2
Arevos Programming Guru Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,499 Rep Power: 5	Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA? EULA's aren't worth the paper they're written on.

Nov 8th, 2007, 8:38 PM	#3
InfiNate Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Waterloo, ON Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA? After every game I install I find its corresponding no-cd hack. I assume thats breaking the EULA.

Nov 8th, 2007, 9:36 PM	#4
Jabo Not a user? Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 331 Rep Power: 2	Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA? Well, the anti-piracy schemes are themselves breaking the law, why would anybody honor a eula?

Nov 8th, 2007, 11:04 PM	#5
MiKuS Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 141 Rep Power: 2	Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA? i got interested in coding by counterstrike, i saw a group of hackers and thought "the code to do that kind of stuff would definitely take some research." i got into looking how to make game trainers and eventually modified one for battlefield 2, and used it online - effectively violating punkbusters EULA and getting cd-key banned from ALL punkbuster enabled servers. I don't hack in online games to appear better, troll or do anything but see if the hack works as intended.

Nov 9th, 2007, 12:28 PM	#8
Klipt Hobbyist Programmer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 118 Rep Power: 0	Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA? I've no idea ... if I actually read the EULA of every game I installed, it might use up several weeks of my life. I'd rather not take that chance. __________________ Get PLT Scheme\|SB Common Lisp\|Haskell\|wxDev-C++\|Python

Nov 10th, 2007, 4:39 AM	#9
Jabo Not a user? Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 331 Rep Power: 2	Re: Have you ever broken a game EULA? The anti-piracy schemes disallow making copies of software you've paid for, which is allowed by law for personal use. With what software costs nowadays, I'd hate to have my $500 visual studio disk ruined because of unforeseen circumstances and not be able to use it should my hard drive die and I have no disks to re-install it. You think if I called Microsoft and explained to them that my kid stuck my cd in the microwave they'd send me a replacement?

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